Miscellaneous: Vulak's Guards

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pacify and Calm do not affect tethered mobs. Edit: Not tethered, linked. Calm line does not affect linked mobs.

Good point. Now, if we can find proof a change wasn't made when they started rooting mobs. This is when we all collectively curse the patch notes.

[khanable]

Enough of these 2002 links, gross

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...99736595991951

We have every confidence that the item was nerfed due to newbie whining alone. If you knew the loot table of every mob in North ToV along with their respective difficulties, you would agree as well.

The only group of people currently stupid enough to be releasing Vulak loot is the gimp guild Defenders of Akanon, which used a design flaw to kill Vulak, and does not understand nor appreciate why Vulak loot has not been spoiled. They haven't killed most of the dragons in the north wing, and killing Vulak was due to a loophole in mob AI.

http://web.archive.org/web/200109021...chive/arc.html

NOTE: 2001 NSFW RAGE POST HERE

About 5mins after Vulak was dead I didn't think I would be making a post like this. I was to excited to think. We had done it. But about 10mins after this point the chat came over /gu that one of our members decided to post how will killed Vulak and that Vyemm was still up. At the time I didn't think this would be that big of a problem, It just showed that Ikikgud did his job as an awesome puller, he got the fucker solo.

I think it was Stiff that broke the news that Furor had made a post how we cheated, and exploited to kill Vulak, Well that kind of bursted my bubble.. I didn't think we cheated, and no one can prove we cheated either, because we didn't.. plain and simple. Well after we heard the news that Furor thought that new ToV would be nerfed, we asked for him to remove the post, at that point and time (at least I didn't) want to be the guild that will be remembered for Fucking over North ToV for the rest of the peeps. After Furor refused to delete it and started a pissing contest with Ikikgud, most DoA got banned from there IRC channel. I think this is about the time.. most DoA got pissed.

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN. Click here. This I believe is the first thread starting the flame.. You can see all the action. WOWOW. I figure this will continue for awhile. Fact is.. We didn't cheat we used something call.. shhh say it with me... FEIGN DEATH. I have nothing but respect for most of FoH, except one. As Im about to submit this to the newsposter I see that Ikikgud finally summed it up ::

Perhaps you weren't on the irc channel when doa members got on. I personally got on to ask furor to remove the post made by kyrak, because I didn't want it causing problems. As I entered the channel I was greeted by:

You sir are a gimp, you lead a gimp guild, and I will personally make sure that you never kill vulak again.

So as you see, furor (who we will refer to as faggor from now on, as it better describes him) is the one who started this all. He could have just removed the post. Or he could have left it up and not started his mighty shit-talking campaign. Faggor has every right to disagree with whatever he likes, but if he wants to insult and make his laughable threats, I'll gladly respond to the faggot. Anyone got a log of that Irc chat? Where faggor proceeded to ask me what clothes I was wearing irl? BTW, the reference to furor's homosexual nature stems from his interest in dressing me up in leather. I'm sorry man but I'm really not interested in ass-fucking you, nor will I allow you to touch mine.

WHY DOES THIS REMIND ME OF SOMETHING..

Anyway.. Congrats on peeps loot.

Think it stands to reason if someone could get Vulak split off from Lord Vyemm during actual classic (not 2002 lazie classic), they could probably get him away from his guards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Maner]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enough of these 2002 links, gross

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...99736595991951



http://web.archive.org/web/200109021...chive/arc.html

NOTE: 2001 NSFW RAGE POST HERE



Think it stands to reason if someone could get Vulak split off from Lord Vyemm during actual classic (not 2002 lazie classic), they could probably get him away from his guards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They clearly state they kited vymme while killing vulak.... it doesn't mention his guards at all...

[Erati]

nice find @Cucs but if Vulak has leashed guards (OP's conjecture) then evidence u can split Vulak from Vyemm isnt really much of a gotcha

those are two very different type of mobs- this isnt a post whether "leashing or chaining" existed in classic bc Lucan and Jentry prove that daily

its possible that those people killed guards then split Vulak from Vyemm once Vulak did his call to the dragons

[Colgate]

right now on p99, every north wing dragon except eashen/ikatiar is leashed to vulak.. he doesn't just "call" them to his lair

pretty sure in classic he would call the lords/ladies to his lair, they would leave, and the script wouldn't work again for some amount of time, maybe 30 minutes?

right now for as long as vulak is aggro'd or not in his lair, every other dragon will stack on top of him

that post alone should be convincing enough to get rid of the current vulak call script and retune it to be possible to pull him without killing every other dragon

[Colgate]

where in that post does it say vyemm was kited?

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

where in that post does it say vyemm was kited?

On live vulak had an internal CD on his call of dragons ability to bring in his friends. All you did was kite the other dragons after he did the call, reset the fight and he wouldn't do another call for a set period of time, effectively splitting the dragons. But the post also doesn't state anything about the guards which could have been split and killed prior to engaging and killing vulak.

[khanable]

Actually, from the above link I posted, this was kinda interesting:

Sorry for the posting this so late, but I have been so busy working on a customers web site. Anyway, we kill these guys last night, I wasn't on for Klandicar or Zladnicar, and I just got on in time for the other North ToV dragons.

The server connection problems didn't help matters as most peeps would go LD every 15mins.. eventually we had 35 peeps that had stable connections.. so we pulled Sevalak, he dropped, then we pulled Cekenar 3mins later. We did make an attempt on Aaryonar, I believe we got him to 60% or 65% without slowing him, we had some problems from the beginning, overall it was a ok attempt, just need to fix some things.. Slow would make a big difference to.

Thanks to the DoA members that stuck around for the drake rares, and the guards, grats to everyone on loot, and to Kindeano.. the one night wonder. I didnt get all the SS of the loot, and I might be missing a few..

[khanable]

Here's a decent thread from 2002 of people talking about how Aary's guards are now linked to him

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10941

Just wondering if you have killed Aaroy recently, because I THINK his pets
ALWAYS come with him together now. Our monk puller is stupid good,
but we don't even waste our time trying to separate them any more.

Starting to think like Colgate; don't think any of the guards should be linked to any dragons!

Linked guards probably came around when they decided to dildo up the zone with roaming flurries

[Maner]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a decent thread from 2002 of people talking about how Aary's guards are now linked to him

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10941



Starting to think like Colgate; don't think any of the guards should be linked to any dragons!

I could see the drakes becoming no longer linked after they rooted a lot of the dragons in ntov. Not before though

"We fight Aary in the long hall right before the ramp down the hatchlings. We put the clerics on the railing behind the wall and you can ch the MT who should be positioning Aary's head right at the corner. If you are getting his 2 guards with him then what we do is kill the pets first while the ch chain keeps the MT alive. Our monk has gotten good enough to pull his pets to the zone in room so we dont have to fight him and his pets together anymore though. Make sure you kill all the babies at approximately the same time since having these respawn during the fight can mean a loss. Also make sure you have timed killing the two normal drakes near the stairs to NToV so you dont get respawn of them either. Aary is a tough fight as dragons in NToV go so keep your chins up."

"Looking back at the fight and talking over things with the guild on our messageboard, I think I see where we went wrong. The fake manadrain AOE killed us. By the time we knew that we could insta click the mana back, we had lost our main tank and a number of others. Through our CH rotation out the window and no one was able to stay up long enough.
What we did was pull Aary and his pets down the hall to the bottom of his ramp and to the door that leads to Ikky and Eashan's(sp?) rooms. Our clerics hid in a room and we healed from there while we did our best to try and wax at least one of the pets. The casters stayed near the door and were supposed to open it and go through when the AE macro was hit. In the end, we got one pet down to about 30 or 40 percent but the problem was all of the early deaths.
Also one other question, what is a good number of Clerics/people for the fight? Looking for realistic numbers here. For the most part, we're in full (or near full) Skyshrine Armor with about a quarter or a third of our melee Primal equipped.
Thanks a ton."

"We assign one group to hatchling duty, and 1 group each to his two guards the rest go to the main fight. AAry is kept in the hallway before his pit, the guards are brought around the corner to where the clerics are. "

are all posts in that thread which lead one to believe his "pets" also known as guards were leashed to him