Miscellaneous: Vulak's Guards

[khanable]

Only in era proof I see thus far was caleros's stuff.

Technically even the dragons were not fully "leashed" to vulak. There were supposedly ways around it. Furor threw a massive fit over it.

Will post some links when home.

[Freakish]

http://users.owt.com/progreen/tovpage.html

Eashan is much faster than his guards, so will reach puller well ahead of his guards... as soon as puller dies, all 5 will turn back and head to room, this is where tagger steps out and tags Eashan. Should come single as long as tagger has sneak on.

Aaryonar is the hard shell of NToV that ya gotta crack to get at the soft meat... and he is a pain. He has 2 guards, but can occasionally be singled (65 puller), do not remember much about them, other than they dropped fairly fast.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://users.owt.com/progreen/tovpage.html

Again they mention the 65 puller quite clearly that that is what is needed to do it by the wording. Eashen's guards should not be leashed. I agree with that.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://users.owt.com/progreen/tovpage.html

Aaryonar is the hard shell of NToV that ya gotta crack to get at the soft meat... and he is a pain. He has 2 guards, but can occasionally be singled (65 puller), do not remember much about them, other than they dropped fairly fast.

any lvl 65 reference isn't classic as NToV was changed a lot when luclin and pop came out

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only in era proof I see thus far was caleros's stuff.

Technically even the dragons were not fully "leashed" to vulak. There were supposedly ways around it. Furor threw a massive fit over it.

Will post some links when home.

Caleros stuff shows...Nothing ? I agree the guards in ToV should be easier as he mentioned. However, They do not show the pull. They show a random screenshot of dead guards in ToV and a Dead Vulak. I mean if it's from the same raid why are the groups he is in from the Vulak kill to the Guard kill...different. Should have been the charge like he mentioned right ? For all we know by that they killed the guards before Vulak spawned (Remember no huge variance) like every other guild did in classic. At least show a screenshot with Vulak and the guards up before showing us that as proof.

[Colgate]

so far the only explicit statement of leashed or not leashed is favoring not leashed, despite being out of era

caleros screenshot isn't exactly 100% evidence, but it's good support of them not being leashed

[Lazie]

Just posting even more evidence about as to why keeping mobs lulled became viable. If you played a Monk in classic you should remember this change.

http://www.monkly-business.net/forum...read.php?t=627

Key words from the thread right here...


We've had the ability for awhile now to make it so certain monsters were totally immune to being lulled. This is especially common in higher level outdoor zones such as Cazic-Thule, since Harmony would take any challenge out of splitting groups of monsters. Having a such powerful game dynamic with no risk of failure made these encounters too easy, so we were forced to make many monsters totally lull immune to compensate. With this change to Harmony, we'll now be able to remove the lull immunity from many monsters, and turn this ability into a useful spell line that gives great benefits, but with some risk that your spell may be resisted.

[Freakish]

I understand my link was from out of era. What out of era changes would have allowed the ability to bypass leashed mobs from assisting?

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand my link was from out of era. What out of era changes would have allowed the ability to bypass leashed mobs from assisting?

Read the post above this. There were changes made to lull and AAs were added. It among other things angered quite a few Monks.

[Freakish]

Pacify and Calm do not affect tethered mobs. Edit: Not tethered, linked. Calm line does not affect linked mobs.