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Old 11-13-2015, 09:52 AM
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is Haggard Krew still a thing on blue?
A couple of the officers got popped for RMT plus they were having trouble cracking the "casual" raid environment so they pretty much fell apart.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:04 AM
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Hey everyone,

It's my regret to inform everyone that leadership has decided to put the guild and it's activities on pause, indefinitely. We started this guild a year ago to be a semi-casual environment that would enable us to progress through the game without the need to be hardcore. Unfortunately the server climate isn't allowing us to pursue that goal without turning the guild into something we don't want it to be.

The server is very top-heavy with Rampage destroying everything and BDA/Taken zerging the scraps. In order for us to be successful as a guild we would need to mass-invite casual players to support our core of hardcore players. Since we don't do that it's put us in a difficult position where our core is burnt out from carrying the load and we're unable to field enough people for basic raids.

Instead of forcing the guild into a merger or to be absorbed by another guild we are giving you guys the choice to go where you want. It's always been your choice to do what you want and we don't want to pressure anyone to follow us down a path they don't agree with.

This 'phased' approach I implemented 8 days ago revealed a lot about our current state. Despite having over 137 members and 47 trials we've barely been able to self-organize groups to complete things. In most cases, people were just doing their own thing....and thats OK. We don't expect everyone to have an urge to progress in the same way as our core - but it sets us up for a difficult future when we're trying more complex raids and encounters if resists and gearing is inconsistent across the board.

However, the guild isn't dissolving. A lot of people want to stay in it and play with the friends they've made here and wear the HK tag with pride. You're free to do so as well. The primary difference here is there won't be a leadership team that helps organize and spearhead events anymore.

Thank you everyone for being a part of this great guild and great experience. We wish you all the best and hope to see you around.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:20 AM
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That was after Sset took a break and some officers and people left.

Pretty much RL > Dis elf sim.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:03 AM
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lol RMT, why is it so hard for people to keep their wallets in their pockets? GG said Braknar is on "that site" more than he spends time with his kids... which I'm not going to take as gospel but should serve as a deterrent.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:14 AM
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That does sum up my thoughts on the blue raid scene quite accurately - need to be in a big guild to get those targets regularly and people queue up to apply to them which strangles emerging guilds who want to raid.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:22 AM
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That does sum up my thoughts on the blue raid scene quite accurately - need to be in a big guild to get those targets regularly and people queue up to apply to them which strangles emerging guilds who want to raid.
You realize that's a construct of the top tier guilds and not the mid tier guilds right? What BDA and Taken do is a shitty approximation of what Rampage does.

Rampage ripped a Tormax kill that BDA was working hard for. They had two guys get FTE while 70 other Rampage poured into Kael, had their main tank and ramp tank ready to go, plus a functional CH chain all on the fly in under 60 seconds or something.

When you yell at BDA or Taken for choking out new guilds you have to realize that every guild is hardened by dealing with Rampage, or from dealing with each other. There's no slack in the line because that's always how p99 has been, the top guild always does whatever it takes and everyone else is forced to adjust their orbits around the leading guilds gravity.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:32 AM
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When you yell at BDA or Taken for choking out new guilds you have to realize that every guild is hardened by dealing with Rampage, or from dealing with each other. There's no slack in the line because that's always how p99 has been, the top guild always does whatever it takes and everyone else is forced to adjust their orbits around the leading guilds gravity.
Well you could try and get a rotation put in but nobody is fooling for that one again.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:38 AM
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Well you could try and get a rotation put in but nobody is fooling for that one again.
Right, because the small guilds would eventually take advantage of the situation again, which is why the rotation fell. The 3 big guilds were the ones keeping the rotation in check when the Bobs and GTs tried to ruin it, we were the muscle. So when the muscle got tired of being taken advantage of we offered an amended rotation that was more fair to the muscle. The smaller guilds said it was unfair and decided to fight about it. They lost.

Your revisionist history is bullshit. There could have been a rotation all the way to Velious if the smaller guilds hadn't decided to push the issue.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:49 AM
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You realize that's a construct of the top tier guilds and not the mid tier guilds right? What BDA and Taken do is a shitty approximation of what Rampage does.

Rampage ripped a Tormax kill that BDA was working hard for. They had two guys get FTE while 70 other Rampage poured into Kael, had their main tank and ramp tank ready to go, plus a functional CH chain all on the fly in under 60 seconds or something.

When you yell at BDA or Taken for choking out new guilds you have to realize that every guild is hardened by dealing with Rampage, or from dealing with each other. There's no slack in the line because that's always how p99 has been, the top guild always does whatever it takes and everyone else is forced to adjust their orbits around the leading guilds gravity.

besides occasional confrontations, can you clue the rest of us into what rampage is actually choking you guys out of on a nightly basis/weekly basis for kills? To the rest of us it looks like there is the absolute top of content that rampage has a chokehold on and is dominating.

the kill list of the rest of the "mid tier" guilds is quite extensive and impressive on an almost weekly basis. People seem to hardly be able to sleep there is so much to kill on most days.

Not upset or causing ruffles, just would like to be clued into the dynamic of the FAT/BDA vs. Rampage dynamic, because that effects the ripple down on how the rest of us are treated.
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Old 11-13-2015, 11:11 AM
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besides occasional confrontations, can you clue the rest of us into what rampage is actually choking you guys out of on a nightly basis/weekly basis for kills? To the rest of us it looks like there is the absolute top of content that rampage has a chokehold on and is dominating.

the kill list of the rest of the "mid tier" guilds is quite extensive and impressive on an almost weekly basis. People seem to hardly be able to sleep there is so much to kill on most days.

Not upset or causing ruffles, just would like to be clued into the dynamic of the FAT/BDA vs. Rampage dynamic, because that effects the ripple down on how the rest of us are treated.
Rampage's current menu is every NToV dragon, Doze, any ST key dragon, all 3 city leaders, Statue/AoW, revamp CT/draco, maybe revamp Inny (probably not), Sleeper's Warders/Minis, sometimes Tunare, and sometimes Phara Dar. That means to compete for any of those targets you have to be balls to the wall high alert. Forsaken/Asgard had a good chunk of kills this past week but it was the first real chink in Rampages Velious armor. So to get that content you have to dedicate an absurd amount of man hours or have a highly trained raid force and have the proper infrastructure and experience with content, plus you get to play LawyerQuest non stop.

Instead of doing that Divinity opted to go Giant faction. They farm WToV in peace as often as they want with no competition. Taken/BDA opted for VP and some Velious and some Kunark (Taken went HAM on Kunark mobs, not that I'm blaming them for doing so, my guild just didn't have that much interest in the content) and then everyone else is chasing whatever is left.

Rampage was averaging about 30 major kills a week, which I'm sure is now less with ForsakenGard pushing them. Look at some of the Rampage thread bumps, 73 kills for 176 items over two weeks. That's why there's less room for the small guilds, if we (we the tier 2 guilds) want content we have to croot and contest and because there's a finite number of nexkbeards on the server, and because neckbeards like the path of least resistance it's going to be tough to overcome them.
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