If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda odd that the most int. people on the planet a huge majority of them don't believe either.

John Polkinghorne is a good friend of Stephen Hawkings'. He's one of the leading Quantum Physicists in the world. He is also an ordained Anglican priest. There are giants in the academic world who are theists, and there are giants who are non-theistic.

Well-credentialed people in the hard sciences tend to be agnostic or theist. Well-credentialed people in social sciences or humanities tend to be Atheist.

This:

There is no god, until proven.

Is probably one of the weakest arguments for Atheism. If you want to be a better atheist, there are better ways to approach it.

But the mere position "until you prove it to me, I choose to affirm the non-existence of any divine entity" is to affirm something without any evidence - the non-existence of a divine being.

You're better off remaining a hard agnostic, i.e. "I know that you can't know."

[Pycoba_rng]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For one Bogg is a known troll. He had what a 20page thread months ago and at the end said I'm lying about everything haha trolled you. Than stated his friend and him were laughing so hard. HE"S A CHILD. he's probably atheist and just getting a kick out of this again.

Anyways, I don't believe god created anything. Neither does steven hawking. Kinda odd that the most int. people on the planet a huge majority of them don't believe either.

If there was any , and I mean any proof at all. I would second guess if a god existed.

What if there are MANY gods 10 or 400 or 9999999 of them?

When does space end ?

If this god created the universe. It doesn't care at all about humans or other beings. It doesn't show itself even though it could. It lets nature take it's course , will be the answer as to why so much pain is in the world believers will say. Why we were created with nerve endings and not a different form of signals to the brain.

There is no god, until proven. = There is 0 evidence of a god
There is tons of evidence for science.

I am glad people have hope in something to get them through life. I don't need too and I can not make myself believe a lie. It's impossible. Kids on my bus used to tease me at the age of 6 because I didn't believe in god. I just hope soon we can prove there is none. With all the evidence of HOW the universe was created without a god. They already have it ,, it's almost done. a few more years maybe for the fine details.

I can still be a morally better person than anyone that believes in god.

This is entirely laughable. Especially the part where you said god doesn't care about human beings... Man kinds worst enemy is himself. You want to be angry at someone? Be angry at yourself. God cares enough about you to let you destroy yourself , rather then wiping you off the face of the planet in a blink of an eye. I laugh at any argument basing man kinds evils and how its god fault. Or how he can prevent them. In this world we are taught to learn from our mistakes. The funny thing is people keep making the same mistakes over and over. We kill , hurt , pillage , and destroy. Maybe when mankind gets his shit togeather and applies the bible to his life. Maybe then god would show himself to you in person. Until that time hes better left silent and in our prayors. If you actually read the bible. You will learn that if people leared from the stories it teaches , not take them at face value , but applied its teaches. The world would be a better place...

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Pycoba_rng [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is entirely laughable. Especially the part where you said god doesn't care about human beings... Man kinds worst enemy is himself. You want to be angry at someone? Be angry at yourself. God cares enough about you to let you destroy yourself , rather then wiping you off the face of the planet in a blink of an eye. I laugh at any argument basing man kinds evils and how its god fault. Or how he can prevent them. In this world we are taught to learn from our mistakes. The funny thing is people keep making the same mistakes over and over. We kill , hurt , pillage , and destroy. Maybe when mankind gets his shit togeather and applies the bible to his life. Maybe then god would show himself to you in person. Until that time hes better left silent and in our prayors. If you actually read the bible. You will learn that if people leared from the stories it teaches , not take them at face value , but applied its teaches. The world would be a better place...

A lot of the problems in bold were also done in the name of the Bible and God, so I don't understand what your getting at.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Massive Marc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of the problems in bold were also done in the name of the Bible and God, so I don't understand what your getting at.

So they were done in the name of the bible. So what? What does that mean? If I went out an killed someone and said that I was doing it in your name, does that mean you sanctioned it? Not at all. Fallacious argument much?

[Massive Marc]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So they were done in the name of the bible. So what? What does that mean? If I went out an killed someone and said that I was doing it in your name, does that mean you sanctioned it? Not at all. Fallacious argument much?

Have you read the bible ?

[Pycoba_rng]

You can disbelieve god all you want. If more people read the bible and applied its teachings to their life. The world would simply be a better place. Personally I don't believe the stories in the bible. At least not all of them. The Bible itself to me is a guideline to how you should live your life. So whether or not you are religious its a good read. Some of the best stories come out of the bible. I bet everyone could get some good from the bible religous or not. Though the bible was written by man and edited through tons of religious efforts. Its still a darn good book. If people would just do good onto others and forgive people. We could have a closer thing to a spirtual heaven then we have now. The fact of the matter is man is imperfect. For man to improve he needs to accept this and learn from it. God, the bible and its teachings are a good start.

[Tumdumm]

Originally Posted by rachel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For one Bogg is a known troll.

rachel warned you all

like, yesterday

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Tumdumm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rachel warned you all

like, yesterday

Hey genius...why not look back through all the pages ITT and see the many many thought out responses to questions I have posted. Just because I trolled a bunch of potheads long ago, does not mean that I am in ITT. Think, and read before you post.

[Tumdumm]

/\ talking about this thread

also read the other thing, wasn't as big of a waste of time as the thread

[Autotune]

84 pages of "No! You sir are wrong, and I am correct. Here read my copy/past from Google, it will prove my point."