bring back dual boxing.

[BahamutDF]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More so than than the "irrational hatred" is the how do you police permitted boxing? A blanket ban on boxing and requiring IP exemptions for multi-player households is far less overhead than allowing 2 clients per person at a time whether on one computer or two computers.

When you get into allowing people 2 clients per person/computer/connection, then you start running into the issue of GMs having to police whether that is 4 people sitting at a camp, 2 people with 2 computers and 2 clients each, 1 person playing 4 characters across 2 boxes 2 connections.

With boxing, the server population would increase by at least 50% at any given time. EC would be loaded with 400+ people idling a trader character. People would just load up a port bot / heal bot instead of asking for other people's help. People would power level themselves, thereby monopolizing more content. People would be able to lock down two different camps by themselves. People could lock down harder camps by themselves pushing what would otherwise be their duo/trio partners into other camps to hold down themselves. Raid encounters would become even more trivial since raid leaders could bring along a rez cleric to every raid and idle it at character select in the event of a wipe or players bring an extra DPS class and AFK auto attack.

Live was able to disincentivize boxing by requiring players to buy a new copy of EQ + play a monthly fee. If players wanted to box, Verant/Sony got the benefit of it. Here there is no such disincentive besides taking 5 minutes to make a new EMU account and no benefit to P99. Live accounts became inaccessible when no one was paying the monthly fee. Here, accounts live on in perpetuity and get adopted by friends and guild members.

+1

This is why people like me get so incensed when someone suggests P99 allow boxing. Fuck that. I'm here specifically because boxing isn't allowed.

[Whirled]

That would be interesting to do a patch test - allow up to 2 ip same address only for 1 month & view results. +1 vote for science.

[Ele]

grrr, who moved this thread to RNF while I was typing my post. Now I can't edit.

[fastboy21]

You can three box on p2002. The population online is currently 60 characters in game---so 20 real people. Some of which are probably also logged into p99.

If people left for p2002 they don't seem to be doing much playing there.

[kennymack007]

I played on shards of dalaya a couple years ago. Everyone Boxed. It was retarded. End of story.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by kennymack007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played on shards of dalaya a couple years ago. Everyone Boxed. It was retarded. End of story.

^^^

Except I didn't think it was that retarded. I had fun, but it did kill certain aspects of this type of game.

[snoopdog]

Originally Posted by dafier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^

Except I didn't think it was that retarded. I had fun, but it did kill certain aspects of this type of game.

It kills the social aspect. I feel the same way about fast travel, aka PoK.

[Bruno]

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[snoopdog]

If you read on the Daybreak forum, the number one complaints for Ragefire and Lockjaw are about boxing. Although people still play there, hordes of boxing definitely makes it less enjoyable for the majority.

[kennymack007]

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Originally Posted by kennymack007 View Post
I played on shards of dalaya a couple years ago. Everyone Boxed. It was retarded. End of story.
^^^

Except I didn't think it was that retarded. I had fun, but it did kill certain aspects of this type of game.

Not to say Shards of Dalaya didn't have a lot of great ideas. It did, It was fun for that. But, the boxing ruined it all. It was near impossible to find a group level 12+ and when you did it was tagging along with a boxer.

The experiences I had was when a boxer would try to roll play his characters; You would think you were talking to 3 people, but they were slow to respond. Then you would wipe because they boxer couldn't handle a simple situation. After trying to figure out why your group sucks you would find out it's just one neckbeard boxing. That shit pissed me off so much.