bring back dual boxing.

[Efwan]

OP either an idiot or just a bad troll. Kinda leaning towards the latter.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Revelation [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because people are going to project 2002.

Win/Win

[OfftuneRZ]

Posting this thread was a bad idea. I support multi boxing but these poop socking nerds on blue99 have some sort of hatred towards it. Its ok though, let them stand at a spawn for 5 days at a time waiting for that FTE like a buncha nerds.

[Calibretto]

If you want to play a game by your self with no interaction with other players I suggest you go ahead and get yourself a console. This is an elf simulator who's population(in my opinion) is DIRECTLY related to the forced social interaction with other players to be successful. You know why everyone left eq1? Boxing and mercs. Your logic is flawed and self centered, which is not surprising for someone who is so desperately trying to get people to think he's an adult. Its totally normal behavior for an adolescent. You aren't fooling anyone. Ask your parents to buy you a PS4 for your birthday. It'll be awesome.

[JboxCSU]

The hate for dual boxing here is pretty extreme.

I'd support it, but it won't happen.

[Agecroft]

/checks population

..1400+ on blue alone

Who is leaving again? To go where?

[simp403]

Originally Posted by Agecroft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/checks population

..1400+ on blue alone

Who is leaving again? To go where?

We're leaving for red.

[jcr4990]

I logged on P2002. It was an embarrassment. Client sucks its glitchy and awful. I like PoP era a lot more than Velious and prefer the ability to 2 box but I just couldn't deal with how bad the client is. Not to mention theres less ppl playing there than Red server and we all know how shitty the population is over there.

I would LOVE to see 2 box allowed on P99 (only 2) but its quite obvious it'll never happen with the irrational hatred of the idea by so many folks here. So just gotta deal with it.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would LOVE to see 2 box allowed on P99 (only 2) but its quite obvious it'll never happen with the irrational hatred of the idea by so many folks here. So just gotta deal with it.

More so than than the "irrational hatred" is the how do you police permitted boxing? A blanket ban on boxing and requiring IP exemptions for multi-player households is far less overhead than allowing 2 clients per person at a time whether on one computer or two computers.

When you get into allowing people 2 clients per person/computer/connection, then you start running into the issue of GMs having to police whether that is 4 people sitting at a camp, 2 people with 2 computers and 2 clients each, 1 person playing 4 characters across 2 boxes 2 connections.

With boxing, the server population would increase by at least 50% at any given time. EC would be loaded with 400+ people idling a trader character. People would just load up a port bot / heal bot instead of asking for other people's help. People would power level themselves, thereby monopolizing more content. People would be able to lock down two different camps by themselves. People could lock down harder camps by themselves pushing what would otherwise be their duo/trio partners into other camps to hold down themselves. Raid encounters would become even more trivial since raid leaders could bring along a rez cleric to every raid and idle it at character select in the event of a wipe or players bring an extra DPS class and AFK auto attack.

Live was able to disincentivize boxing by requiring players to buy a new copy of EQ + play a monthly fee. If players wanted to box, Verant/Sony got the benefit of it. Here there is no such disincentive besides taking 5 minutes to make a new EMU account and no benefit to P99. Live accounts became inaccessible when no one was paying the monthly fee. Here, accounts live on in perpetuity and get adopted by friends and guild members.

[ryachart]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More so than than the "irrational hatred" is the how do you police permitted boxing? A blanket ban on boxing and requiring IP exemptions for multi-player households is far less overhead than allowing 2 clients per person at a time whether on one computer or two computers.

When you get into allowing people 2 clients per person/computer/connection, then you start running into the issue of GMs having to police whether that is 4 people sitting at a camp, 2 people with 2 computers and 2 clients each, 1 person playing 4 characters across 2 boxes 2 connections.

With boxing, the server population would increase by at least 50% at any given time. EC would be loaded with 400+ people idling a trader character. People would just load up a port bot / heal bot instead of asking for other people's help. People would power level themselves, thereby monopolizing more content. People would be able to lock down two different camps by themselves. People could lock down harder camps by themselves pushing what would otherwise be their duo/trio partners into other camps to hold down themselves. Raid encounters would become even more trivial since raid leaders could bring along a rez cleric to every raid and idle it at character select in the event of a wipe or players bring an extra DPS class and AFK auto attack.

Live was able to disincentivize boxing by requiring players to buy a new copy of EQ + play a monthly fee. If players wanted to box, Verant/Sony got the benefit of it. Here there is no such disincentive besides taking 5 minutes to make a new EMU account and no benefit to P99. Live accounts became inaccessible when no one was paying the monthly fee. Here, accounts live on in perpetuity and get adopted by friends and guild members.

Lots of really good second-level analysis here.

I would pretty quickly leave if P99 allowed boxing. Anyone who mains a cleric can pretty easily see the writing on the wall if boxing is allowed. Cleric isn't a class that requires a lot of attention to play, and groups don't need you if someone is always just boxing their cleric for the group because it's trivial to box a cleric.

Many probably see this as a design flaw, but...aren't we here for the design flaws? =)