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Old 07-16-2015, 02:40 PM
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Players secretly conducting RMT does not in anyway threaten the server. Like I said, the staff obviously has to oppose it, but I would be shocked of sony/daybreak cared that a few people were making trades on a separate forum completely unrelated to the P99 staff.

How does someone spending $$ on a fungi affect you? I derive enjoyment from this game through progressing my characters and playing with people I enjoy talking to - someone I dont know wasting their own money to buy an in game item in no way makes me enjoy the game less.

The staff obviously cant permit RMT, but I just doesnt make sense to me that they waste time conducting sting operations and enforcing it so strongly when the only reason the rule exists is because we dont want there to be any profit that would motivate sony/daybreak to shut it down. I think the profit they are concerned with is more in regard to the server and not individual players. People RMT'd on live all the time, despite it being against the rules, and I never heard of a single person getting in trouble for it. As long as the staff arent running a big RMT ring, or charging subscription fees or something, I dont think the server has anything to worry about.

Its like drugs. I know theyre illegal, and if I were a cop and someone sparked up a joint infront of me I would feel compelled to fine/arrest them (depending on location), but there is no way I'd be sniffing up people's cars actively trying to catch people for it since it is almost completely a victimless crime.
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:57 PM
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Players secretly conducting RMT does not in anyway threaten the server. Like I said, the staff obviously has to oppose it, but I would be shocked of sony/daybreak cared that a few people were making trades on a separate forum completely unrelated to the P99 staff.

How does someone spending $$ on a fungi affect you? I derive enjoyment from this game through progressing my characters and playing with people I enjoy talking to - someone I dont know wasting their own money to buy an in game item in no way makes me enjoy the game less.

The staff obviously cant permit RMT, but I just doesnt make sense to me that they waste time conducting sting operations and enforcing it so strongly when the only reason the rule exists is because we dont want there to be any profit that would motivate sony/daybreak to shut it down. I think the profit they are concerned with is more in regard to the server and not individual players. People RMT'd on live all the time, despite it being against the rules, and I never heard of a single person getting in trouble for it. As long as the staff arent running a big RMT ring, or charging subscription fees or something, I dont think the server has anything to worry about.

Its like drugs. I know theyre illegal, and if I were a cop and someone sparked up a joint infront of me I would feel compelled to fine/arrest them (depending on location), but there is no way I'd be sniffing up people's cars actively trying to catch people for it since it is almost completely a victimless crime.
Other than incentivizing people to lock down limited content for a paycheck, it doesn't affect anyone else playing here at all.
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:29 AM
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How does someone spending $$ on a fungi affect you?
In the open world with a free market economy of P99 Blue, it affects players in a number of ways. Normally I stand unopposed to people employing real life assets to purchase success in a game. After all RMT vendors are essentially doing the same thing when they buy a coffee with the cash they've earned from RMT and nobody cares that their money came from selling pixels in an elf simulator with shitty graphics.

That aside, the RMT in a world like P99 Blue distorts not only the economy, but in-game demographic. Sure some places will always be more popular than others, but when people are deriving external benefit for their success in game, then popular in-game locations/items become that much more important. The long term implications are not so dire however, provided RMT vendors focus their efforts on accumulation of items rather than plat itself. In the end the effect would be a supply glut, driving prices down and making rare items more available. This would greatly benefit the 'experiencers' among us, but would miff the 'achievers'. Unfortunately, item and plat accumulation are not mutually exclusive activities and farming rare items inherently brings an influx of cash with it due to junk drops, which only exacerbates the problem with inflation.
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:17 PM
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Yeah behavior like that adds a whole new dimension to the term EQ Addict
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:46 PM
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Liia and a couple others.

Last I knew, Kelendil basically quit for good when Internode/Froovy got his account banned "permanently".
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:01 PM
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if blue would stop allowing item recharging

majority of these basement dwelling solo challenge artists wouldnt be able to profit
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:11 PM
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if blue would stop allowing item recharging

majority of these basement dwelling solo challenge artists wouldnt be able to profit
Really just need 1 donal's bp and a 2 monk accounts with an IP exemption to be rich as fuck on blue.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:13 PM
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if blue would stop allowing item recharging

majority of these basement dwelling solo challenge artists wouldnt be able to profit
I had a lot of respect for the solo artist challenge thread til I saw Daldaen with his "so you use a puppet string charge here" type posts.
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Old 07-16-2015, 04:01 PM
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I had a lot of respect for the solo artist challenge thread til I saw Daldaen with his "so you use a puppet string charge here" type posts.
It's impossible for a shaman to solo sebilite protector without something like that. Did that make it less interesting to read about Svenn doing it, knowing that he only accomplished it because of a ridiculous item? Of course not. Just like it doesn't make it less fun to use charm, AE kite, or do any of the other silly things that were possible in classic EQ and that are better understood and more prevalent here.


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if blue would stop allowing item recharging

majority of these basement dwelling solo challenge artists wouldnt be able to profit
There aren't very many solo challenge artists. There are a lot of people who farm NG with their 60 ench and still manage to die there though. Do you think somebody like me or Greeny or Svenn or Daldaen wouldn't be able to solo effectively in difficult areas just because we don't have a WC cap?

Those clickies save time, but they don't make much possible that isn't possible already. 95% of the nameds I killed with Tecmos on blue were done with no clickies at all, and probably half the time I did use a clicky it was cause it was simpler, not because it was necessary. I streamed myself in shit gear killing nameds in HS north at level 52 on red, where not only can you not recharge clickies, but they don't have instant cast times even if you want to use them. South would have been done just as easily once I was 60.

Soloing SAC-type stuff is about preparation, knowledge, and (especially) persistence... not about clickies. Thinking it's about the clickies just means you don't really understand how it all works.
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Old 07-16-2015, 04:38 PM
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There aren't very many solo challenge artists. There are a lot of people who farm NG with their 60 ench and still manage to die there though.
Lol so true

Easy to lock down "raid" targets when you have an ever-rotating group of apps that are ineligible for drops bolstering your numbers and really making everything possible then a bunch of people that don't have to be good at EQ at all facetracking for 16 hours a weekend then you conveniently award drops to your inner circle

Some people wanna racetrack all day and act like they're all hardcore, then there are some people can actually play the game who want nothing to do with that horse shit
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