To play a warrior, or not to play a warrior

[Madbad]

Originally Posted by MycahDavith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone always goes to the SSoY.... why

I have heard a rumor that the ykeesha proc happens more often than other procs.

confirm/deny

[EQsale]

Ive owned a RmoY and i do personally think it procs alot more then any other weapons

[kaev]

Originally Posted by EQsale [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive owned a RmoY and i do personally think it procs alot more then any other weapons

LOL, they made all weapon proc rates here the same a while back, a year ago maybe? What you notice/remember isn't necessarily what actually happens. It "seems" like my warrior's Trochilic's Skean proc's way more often than it should for off-hand, but when I check my logs that's just not true. The perception is likely due to the fact that I just don't lose agro after that lovely poison+stun proc hits a mob, so it really calls attention to itself. RMoY is better melee agro than other ykesha proc weapons, when it procs you're going to have excellent cumulative agro, you'll notice those procs because they'll almost never fail to give you solid agro.

Also, Raev exaggerates a little. Warrior is fine in a group that isn't bad, a group where people know their classes, talk to one another about tactics when necessary, and adapt their play to the strengths the group has. Believe it or not that does actually happen in pickup groups, tho not as often as I'd like.

Both knights can compensate for laziness or ignorance about agro mechanics. Other obvious knight class strengths... SKs can get around well and do some interesting pulls with invis+FD, have snares and fears, and have some ability to rescue casters using spells, also SKs solo better than paladins. Paladins are quite good at caster rescue with stun+root+heal and can pull using calm when the mobs aren't too resisty (MR & relative level both have a big effect).

[pharmakos]

i played a warrior to level 59

don't play a warrior

[Grayskull]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i played a warrior to level 59

don't play a warrior

Is there a tank class you would recommend over warrior?

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Grayskull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there a tank class you would recommend over warrior?

I think Danth and I have come to a tenuous detente: if your group is solid and your gear is good, Warrior is the best. The other 99% of the time, Paladins and Shadowknights will do better.

If you have a great splitting monk who never pulls more than 2 mobs, an Enchanter who is on the ball, a Cleric who loves to stun charmed pets on breaks, and superb gear (Epic/VP weapons)? Then you want a Warrior who will do nearly twice as much damage, has decently more HP/AC, and can burn disciplines on the tougher mobs.

But if those players are bad, then as a Warrior there is simply nothing you can do. Both Paladins and Shadow Knights can compensate for their group mates' mistakes. Maybe its stunning the enchanter charmed pet, or snaring a runner, or healing the overenthusiastic rogue, or FD splitting, or just keeping rock solid threat, but a good hybrid can make a bad group . . . I'm not gonna say good, the way an enchanter or monk can simply carry a bad group . . but OK.

[pharmakos]

warriors are also extremely boring. target mob, turn on autoattack. repeat.

[Destron]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

warriors are also extremely boring. target mob, turn on autoattack. repeat.

You can add 'cast spell' and you have all tanks. You're over simplifying the class and role. There is a lot more that goes into tanking than simply target and attack.

Knowing which mobs to kill first in a multiple pull, positioning. Tab targeting throwing taunts/stuns. Timing kicks for spell interupts. You can take it as far as you want.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But if those players are bad, then as a Warrior there is simply nothing you can do.

Not exactly true. Burn nets, mallets, and strings. In that order.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not exactly true. Burn nets, mallets, and strings. In that order.

strings before mallets (assuming the mob is >51)

cheaper to recharge

Originally Posted by Grayskull [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The chances of me ever being an end game raider on this server are approaching zero. I have a life.

Plenty of guilds on this server cater to casual and super-casual folks and they see some end game content

turn that frown upside down!