Why was plane of mischief revamped?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Pscottdai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nothing about the placement of the old entrance made it elite. All one had to do was trail behind a guild clearing NTOV to get to it. Now it was a PITA to figure how the quests worked, but that was why we had the PoM websites and forums.

You write that as if your average player could just tag along behind an elite raiding guild clearing flurry drakes on their way to triplet.

No. Firstly, the vast majority of a classic server during Velious wasn't level 60, secondly, most of the players that were 50-60 absolutely feared traveling to zones where a Rez and corpse recovery are difficult, ToV would be the #1 example of a place where corpse recovery is impossible for your average Joe Schmoe. You say it and on paper it is sound fine but that's just not how it worked.

How it worked was at the end of a ToV clear, a few groups from that elite guild would zone in, a handful would bind and by the end of the week, when other mobs had respawned, almost every one of those characters had been moved out of PoM.

Fast forward to P99. There will be some people who devote an entire character to living in PoM, with a bind there. Many guild's will have CotH mages meaning once you connect a CotH chain, it's a DA Idol + SoW speeds run from PoM for very little effort. Guild's will regularly be clearing NToV as it respawns and I expect many will sell a Rez or CotH to the entrance because platinum rules this server. I have no doubts there will be tons of Torpor Shamans and Enchanter/Cleric duos locking down the best card camps for quite some time. I saw several specific shamans practicing this on beta.

PoM on P99, will be like raiding on P99. Advanced knowledge after 14 years + no-lifers will make it nothing like you remember during classic and there will be RNFs and there will be crying, petitioning, kill stealing, perma camping and price gouging. Outside of Sleepers Tomb/First Brood Dragons, I imagine PoM will be the largest concentration of pure evil on P99 come Velious.

[Auvdar]

Not classic at all, so it won't happen. But instead of keeping the zone in in ToV, the GM's should just put it in a random spot with maybe a little clue quest you can do to try and figure it out. Like put the zone in at the bottom of Ocean of Tears, then you can do a quest to get a "riddle" to solve for the location. Remove binding from the zone (or just make it so binds reset), and move the zone in once a week to a new location.

I mean it will never happen (Lot of work for devs/GMs, completely non-classic), but it would help keep the population low and keep the spirit of the zone intact.

[Daldaen]

The main problem I see with P99 PoM is people having 5 level 60 Alts and having the ability to leave their Torpor Shaman or 60 Enchanter/Necro camped permanently in the zone.

Nerfing binding and switching around zone in would keep in the spirit of the zone but won't happen.

Though hey, maybe I'll just bind my cleric there and sell rezzes. 1k/Rez!

[Auvdar]

It would make sense for the zone. Again, this won't happen at all and just pure theory. Make the quest giver Sirran in Plane of Sky. You have to find 'runes' that he then deciphers into a riddle. Solve the riddle, and it gives you a basic idea of the zone in.

Then just switch the riddle up once every week or so, and keep binding restricted.

Right now everyone and their dog will be able to get into PoM. ToV/NToV is going to be on a damn near permanent clear, so it won't be hard for people to get in. Unless I'm missing something about ToV (been a long long time), people will just wait for a raid guild to clear, run in and zone in.

[Treats]

In order to tag along behind a raid to get to PoM you are going to have to do the faction work first to even get into North. Even then there was a chance to get wrecked by Ikitiar, he was KoS to all like North. Eashen and them might have been KoS too, I can't remember but I don't think so.

Gonna have to buy a CoH (shame on the people that will sell them).

[Llodd]

Wasn't it possible to run in with 2 or maybe 3 DA's?

[Pscottdai]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't it possible to run in with 2 or maybe 3 DA's?

yes, DA runs were common. several guides still out there on the net showing the run route and describing it.

[nyclin]

PoM here will be a boring farmfest not because people will ruin it (they will), but because there will be no mystery. Everything in the zone is based on publicly-available info, so we know exactly what to expect.

The fun of pre-revamp PoM on live was exploring the zone with your friends and trying to figure things out, not getting gear or resist flowers.