FCC kills Net Neutrality

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by lauremore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have to be the dumbest piece of shit I have met. Money and greed drives our country you tool, and the entire ISP model from the start was set up to ultimately control the internet in a way that brings about more money. Also, ISPs have monopolies you ass hat. You can't walk down the street to buy a new ISP contract or find a service provider, and no 2 or 3 in an area is not competition. Learn some fucking economics before you speak asshole. Fucking American idiocies...

Maybe it's different in your area, but I can think of a half dozen different ways to get high speed internet where I live. And if you don't mind using a phone line, you can use any one of dozens of ISPs. I'm really excited about the expansion of smart phones, as they increase the need for fast wifi. As fast wifi becomes more ubiquitous, we will have dozens or hundreds of companies that can provide us with a fast connection.

I'm not too worried about there being too little competition in the future, unless the government is able to pass regulations which allows it to determine who may compete, and net neutrality laws are that Trojan horse. I, too, dislike big businesses that want to screw over customers. Unfortunately, they have learned that using the government is the best way to obtain a monopoly. We want to avoid having a few unelected bureaucrats in charge of the rules of the internet. People are corruptible and once a few people are given the power to make decisions that affect huge industries, the big players in those industries will use their influence to make sure the rules are stacked in their favor.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Estolcles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's really nothing to worry about, honestly.

Shit, issues #1 and #2... anyone remember the days of dialup, when EQ was grand spankin' new, for a minute here? Hello the original Yahoo and AOL and local ISP shit.

It's just the next step of evolution of the net, just reusing the past.

*shrugs*

Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.

[Estolcles]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.

Thus why I made sure to look into unlimited useage accounts instead of based on time. They were a little more expensive, but worth it if you left your comp on and online 24/7.

Luckilly, I was in an area with it's own local ISP. (When you're in the backwoods, a company called "Three Bubbas' Innanet" shouldn't surprise ya.)

Lot cheaper than the big companies of back then.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yah...I remember my first Compuserve bill too...

$600.00. For one month. Yay.

It's far more than that. That is what they want you to think, that it's only extra few bucks down the road. Meanwhile the government begins it's regulations, this current step at least, one of the many as they have already made progress. Same general principle that applied to our auto makers, of which the end result is the government managing what GM produces now etc. ie expensive electric cars that no one wants. Politicians, most anyway, have no damn skill-set for running business, only pandering to special interest. Watch, the eventual buzzword will be "too big to fail" and you'll see trillions (with an s) out the door to gawd knows where (again). Then we will see that last gasp of privately held/owned telecommunications. The only question remains is how much longer until it happens, as they have had their plans in motion for some time. Not just this, but the whole plan; this is just a fragment of the greater picture.

[Torqumada286]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's far more than that. That is what they want you to think, that it's only extra few bucks down the road. Meanwhile the government begins it's regulations, this current step at least, one of the many as they have already made progress. Same general principle that applied to our auto makers, of which the end result is the government managing what GM produces now etc. ie expensive electric cars that no one wants.

If you are referring to the Chevy Volt, you are way off base on your timeline and it's background. Chevy had been working on the Volt for at least two years prior to even asking for a bailout (the idea had been kicked around since 2005, but they started building parts of it in 2007). The production of the Volt did not come from any government regulation stating that GM must build an electric car as there hasn't been any regulation to that effect. As for no one wanting it, last I heard there was a waiting list of over 50,000 people, which is enough to take up the first two years of production.

Torqumada

[Gibcarver]

It takes a snake like the US government to name a power grab "net neutrality". who's version of neutral? yours? probably not. centralized control is exactly what people want to avoid yet some how the chosen defense seems to be giving centralized control to the government. If hundreds of COEs of ISPs across the country can be corrupted to take control of the internet and make it shit then I guarantee the single elected official in charge of the comity overseeing net neutrality WILL be corrupt. Passing this bill would have guaranteed all the unknowns people fear would come to pass.

The great thing about a free market is any "wrongs" in the eyes of a consumer does not force sufferance but rather open new opportunities for competitors to step up and offer a product that is more desirable. This effect is however diminished by government entanglement such as licensing and regulation.(IE our market is not actually free)

If you want more freedom, elect officials who promise to abolish laws and regulations. You do not need government protection...do people fear friends, family, communities so much that they would turn to an imaginary force as their savior?

[optic]

netzero ftw.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by optic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

netzero ftw.

btw (got that post in while I was proofing mine) netzero sux. I had that a few years back, a regular sub, and they kept screwing up the billing. If you want to clear it up, you pretty much need to learn to speak Indian, because they sure as hell cant speak discernible English. Then they tried to ding my credit. They are bastards, one and all. /rant
I'll stick with Verizon on this, as well as side with them on the general topic. I don't think it takes much life experience to figure out where this is headed. A little business sense is good to have too, as those of us who have/do start/maintain small businesses.

[sedain]

the last thing we need is the fcc being able to regulate the intarweb,they are over-reaching,the courts have already ruled that theyre overstepping their mandate...

they dont have the authority to regulate the intarweb,it is free and should stay as-is...giving the government more authority over it would be a huge loss for ALL people.

these companies make plenty of money,they dont need "toll lanes"...the UN regulating the internet???? that should give everyone a sad face...

unfortunately you can count on obama being a supporter of "net neutrality",which is a loaded pile of bs,what the fuck does it mean? it all depends on whether youre for it or against it,and we can be sure that any bill that is passed in favor of it is over 1000 pages of bullshit that takes away freedom that we currently have.

[Erazmus]

"Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem."