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Old 12-22-2010, 02:02 AM
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We're not the only government that uses the internet, either. That's got to present some sort of problems.

Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.
Thats basically what ICANN is

http://icann.org/
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:12 AM
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Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.
Even worse. I don't want my government messing with it let alone the UN for crying out loud.

We are already way over regulated, to a crippling point. It only gives power to governments and/or to organization such as the UN that imo only looks out for their own selfish interests. As long as it remains as it is now, it gives people the ability to impact their practices with how we spend our money.

Has nothing to do with global warming, world population crisis, 2012 doomsday or space aliens making cook books of us. But you know, like everything else they touch, such controlling entities get their claws into it, it will be about everything else so to manipulate it into this intrusive and controlling entity that lacks any sense of the word freedom.
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Old 12-22-2010, 04:54 PM
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USA will be annexed by china probably with in the next century. they already own all of the industries and 90% of the goods + the country it's self has how many gazillions of debt to china?

for the internet topic.... they are going at this the wrong way

analogy:

truck drives on the roads in the us to bring package to destination.
roads belong to the government.
truck gets caught with illegal merchandise.
Hey government should have prevented that, lets see what we can do, I know, lets limit who can drive on the roads.

like seriously... wake up.
before internet, people pirated shit on cd's, before cd's it was floppies, before floppies it was tapes, before tapes well there wasn't anything before tapes.

now it's easy to distribute a product because of the modern technologies, so yes, there is more pirating going on, there is also a lot more legit distribution happening then there use to 20-30 years ago.

as for "but some people use more bandwith the others" argument. it's moot!
we all pay for our service's bandwith and so do every site or services you hit when you brows or download on the internet.
guess what, torrents... ISPS make a lot of money off those. all the stuff I download, I get charged for bandwith every month in my service plan, if I go over, I get charged out of the ass. so they make even more money.
face book, youtube etc... they have to pay just like everyone else, granted with self generated revenue, but some telco is pocketing loads of cash cuz of those sites.

the problem comes from greedy telco that want to "sell" you a big pipe and then turn around and complain when you use it.
like wtf...
you expect me to pay loads of cash for the internet service that does Xmb/s but when I use it you gonna bitch at me?
then what are you selling me exactly?

and yeah... like some people said. US is just 1 country, internet isn't the US, it's the world now.

host your servers in off-shore and this whole thing will be moot again. all that will do is drive the economy down some more. and make isps from other countries try to avoid routing trough the US.
which will cause seclusion which is a bad thing.

really guys, more isn't always better. stop with all the rules and the controlling what everyone does. you are making Russia sound like a nice place to live.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:43 PM
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We're not the only government that uses the internet, either. That's got to present some sort of problems.

Rules and Regulations for the internet and providers should be handled by something like the UN, not individual countries' governments.

The UN couldnt deside a way to get out of a wet paper bag and thats giving you have already punched a hole for them.


Pfft, the next thing you'll be saying is socailized medicine is a good thing
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:58 PM
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The UN couldnt deside a way to get out of a wet paper bag and thats giving you have already punched a hole for them.


Pfft, the next thing you'll be saying is socailized medicine is a good thing
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Old 12-21-2010, 07:56 PM
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Shit im agreeing with Harrison on 2 posts on the same page, somebody pinch me
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:12 PM
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I'll quit the internet and go back to doing things outside and socializing with socialists.
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Old 12-21-2010, 08:54 PM
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"The new FCC rules, for example, would prevent a broadband provider, such as Comcast Corp., AT&T, Inc. or Verizon Communications Inc., from hobbling access to an online video service, such as Netflix, that competes with its own video services.

The rules would also require Internet providers to give subscribers more information on Internet speeds and service. Broadly, the rules would prohibit Internet providers from "unreasonably discriminating" against rivals' Internet traffic or services on wired or wireless networks."

And this is bad because?

Also this is just the start! We need the government to step in and protect us. I doubt any of you could stop Comcast from blocking or slowing selective traffic(porn) from getting to you. They need to go further with this information though making it so the internet stays open and nobody can rule it. I think you've got it wrong.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:28 PM
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I doubt any of you could stop Comcast from blocking or slowing selective traffic(porn) from getting to you.
OH LAWDZ NOT THE PR4N
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:55 PM
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"The new FCC rules, for example, would prevent a broadband provider, such as Comcast Corp., AT&T, Inc. or Verizon Communications Inc., from hobbling access to an online video service, such as Netflix, that competes with its own video services.

The rules would also require Internet providers to give subscribers more information on Internet speeds and service. Broadly, the rules would prohibit Internet providers from "unreasonably discriminating" against rivals' Internet traffic or services on wired or wireless networks."

And this is bad because?

Also this is just the start! We need the government to step in and protect us. I doubt any of you could stop Comcast from blocking or slowing selective traffic(porn) from getting to you. They need to go further with this information though making it so the internet stays open and nobody can rule it. I think you've got it wrong.
It's bad because you have non-elected officials imposing rules on something that is not within their jurisdiction. Now we have to grind out yet another senseless battle in the courts to stay off this dictatorship.
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