Necro, how do you not choose Iksar?

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, any class can click Stein of Ulissa from their inventory. it is a must-have item for all pet classes, not just mage.

Any of them work from inv, not just the stein: (incase you want to play fashionquest ;p)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Vira

[ctre]

One Key thing.
The Iksar is the safest race to kill mobs with.

All other races are definitely not as safe.

The only real downside I can see with Iksar is int, ( they are dumb mofo-s ). /shrug that is all.

[Brujean]

Originally Posted by ctre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One Key thing.
The Iksar is the safest race to kill mobs with.

All other races are definitely not as safe.

The only real downside I can see with Iksar is int, ( they are dumb mofo-s ). /shrug that is all.

Yes. This.

Iksar regen doesn't regen your mana any faster. As long as a non-iksar race can keep up lich without dying, there is no damn difference between the races (well except the massive int difference, allowing gnomes etc. to stack HP items easier). When you get into real high-end raid and group situations, maybe you'll see for yourself; hell, I often refuse to dispel shadowbond on myself just to keep it interesting; clerics are crying for me to stop twitching cause all the mana is going to make them explode... false iksar superiority is false.

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by Brujean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) ...As long as a non-iksar race can keep up lich without dying, there is no damn difference between the races (well except the massive int difference, allowing gnomes etc. to stack HP items easier)....
2)When you get into real high-end raid and group situations, maybe you'll see for yourself
3)... I often refuse to dispel shadowbond on myself just to keep it interesting; clerics are crying for me to stop twitching cause all the mana is going to make them explode... false iksar superiority is false.

1) The actual point is that Iksars have a much easier time not dying to Lich than other races. 18hp/tick vs 7hp/tick doesn't sound like much, but with Lich going it adds up quickly.

A Fungi tunic is 15hp/tick and currently fetches 65k.. I wonder how much Zlandi hearts will go for on this server, and why every necro on the server will want one..

2) I played an Erudite necro on Live and raided quite a bit Kunark through PoP. You aren't going to notice something like Hp regen outside of wipes/close calls. You do come off as quite condescending though so congratulations?

3) I actively tell people not to min/max and just enjoy the game... but some people actually enjoy min/maxing. Good or bad, there are clearly some race/class combinations that are better than others in EQ, and Iksar Necro happens to be one of them... also, why would you purposely play poorly?

You can curse and complain all you want, but numbers don't lie. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to min/max. If you don't like Iksars, don't play one. Nobody is going to turn you away for being a gnome/other inferior race. They might if you come off as a douche, though.

[ctre]

Originally Posted by Brujean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes. This.

Iksar regen doesn't regen your mana any faster. As long as a non-iksar race can keep up lich without dying, there is no damn difference between the races (well except the massive int difference, allowing gnomes etc. to stack HP items easier). When you get into real high-end raid and group situations, maybe you'll see for yourself; hell, I often refuse to dispel shadowbond on myself just to keep it interesting; clerics are crying for me to stop twitching cause all the mana is going to make them explode... false iksar superiority is false.

Actually my post was in relation to when you are soloing mobs.
Re-edited to fix it for you.

One Key thing, (when soloing).
The Iksar is the safest race to kill mobs with.

All other races are definitely not as safe.

The only real downside I can see with Iksar is int, ( they are dumb mofo-s ). /shrug that is all.

[Beinen]

Idk if I've stated I made it to level 12 as a dark elf necro!! Woot! I've noticed how iksar regen has caused other necros to fail where I have not..... Yes they died as where I lived in my undead like ways. I have seen iksar necros over the weekend run through areas like EC, nektulos and g fay to be destroyed by guards and their regen and ac bonuses have caused them, or rather not provided assistance to their survival and lost experience as where I have not!

[Mordyth]

Originally Posted by Beinen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idk if I've stated I made it to level 12 as a dark elf necro!! Woot! I've noticed how iksar regen has caused other necros to fail where I have not..... Yes they died as where I lived in my undead like ways. I have seen iksar necros over the weekend run through areas like EC, nektulos and g fay to be destroyed by guards and their regen and ac bonuses have caused them, or rather not provided assistance to their survival and lost experience as where I have not!

People here are really referring to end game stuff. You wont be in EC all that long really. Necros on a whole are hated pretty much everywhere and when you are out in the big, wide world they'll tell you the little edge you get from being iksar really helps.

That being said, I love RP on my DE.

[mrshzzit]

11+ regen sitting at 60 is nothing

[captnamazing]

for reasons

[Beinen]

I do know if I was iksar at level 8 with the first Lich spell it would basically be free mana. With it running as a DE my hp doesn't move sitting. But it's easily balanced by 1 out of every 5 mins in kiting I just snare fear spam life tap. Really hasn't affected my game much yet. However I am 12 and haven't tried with my new spells but I will update everyone and this seems to be the caster forums favorite thread currently.

-Humyan 12 Dark Elf Necromancer