NPC Spawn Issue: Cazel - HP regen is wrong

[slappytwotoes]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sweet thanks for finding it. So disease lines should stop the regen. If it isnt, then its broken. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is how I remember it too. It tickled the back of mind when I leveled a iksar monk 5-9 in Befallen. Both the plague rats and necro npcs cast Disease on you yet my sitting regen was still high. On live I remember hating that place cause you wouldn't naturally regen at all with disease on you and needed cure or a regen spell on yourself.

Maybe this was changed later and we simply have the unclassic version. I'll do some research.

[georgie]

Ergo dismissed.

[ergo]

So what are the chances we get disease dots to stop NPC regen added? I tried again with Pox and it did nothing to stop the regen.

[Daldaen]

I'd like to hear more evidence on that.

On regular run of the mill things, this is fine.

But on raid mobs and mobs designed to have high regen like Cazel this is game breaking if wrong. I'd think there would be a mention of disease DoT to prevent mob regen in some raid guides or shaman/SK/Necro guides.

Cause certain raid mobs have 1000+ HP Regen. You're talking about Disease Cloud being able to deliver effectively 150DPS+ by inhibiting regen on mobs, that's more than top geared Rogues.

PCs I can buy. NPCs I'm skeptical on.

[koros]

People made stuff up/exaggerated all the time. 2 posts about it stopping regen are far from proof. It would have been a very well known mechanic if it actually stopped regen.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People made stuff up/exaggerated all the time. 2 posts about it stopping regen are far from proof. It would have been a very well known mechanic if it actually stopped regen.

I always thought "disease dots prevent mob regen" was one of those urban legend type rumors. You know, those "did you hear that..." things that never seem to die. I remember hearing this from multiple people on live, but I never observed a successful demonstration, it always ended up as "oh, they musta nerfed it". That's not to say that it wasn't true at some point and later nerfed, but like the poster above me I'd want quite a bit more than just a couple of forum posts as "proof".

[koros]

It probably started after noobs got rabies from crypt mummies in 99 and couldn't gain their hp back.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It probably started after noobs got rabies from crypt mummies in 99 and couldn't gain their hp back.

[ergo]

Rabies always - even on live - stopped hp regen.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by ergo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rabies always - even on live - stopped hp regen.

I am 100% certain that Rabies stopped standing hp regen for low level non-troll player characters, a 1 hp/tick DoT will do that to you. I cannot recollect whether I ever sat down to regen HP with rabies on a character on live and I didn't play any troll characters back then, so I cannot speak directly to either of those but I am doubtful. Again, I heard the claim, but I never saw it proven.

Hell most of us didn't often sit down to regen hp without rabies on live. 20 hp / minute was pretty much too pathetic to bother with after about level four when you couldn't take six steps in a good race newbie/lowbie zone without tripping over 5 druids, 3 rangers, a cleric and a paladin. Most players just kept looking for a cure disease until they found one or they were killed.

Keep in mind that it was quite a few months past release before it was well established that Flame Lick actually did 3 hp/tick, many players remained convinced for a very long time that it did zero or one per tick. Half the mystery of low level spell mechanics in the months after release on live was due to server lag & display latency.