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Old 06-10-2015, 11:11 AM
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From the IB raid suspension page around 3/2015 (my linking skill suck)

"if i remember correctly, this has only happened one other time, and it involved TMO using Enraptured to circumvent a raid suspension. Enraptured was created by TMO and used by TMO as an alt guild prior to the suspension coming down. I also watched TMO leadership telling members to get tagged in Enraptured to circumvent punishment, and i didn't allow it. it was literally the exact same leadership and was specifically ordered to be used to avoid punishment.

this is not the case with Rampage, and so i did not treat them that way. and as i told TMO, if they want to disband their guild to form another guild, if they want to wipe dkp, if they want to shut down the TMO website, if they install new leadership, and if they did all that without knowing that the suspension was coming (to ensure it wasnt being done to circumvent me), then id be ok with it. and that was why I told Rampage that they would not be suspended.

That said, multiple staff members have reviewed this decision, and it has been decided that these punishments will still remain with any players that were IB tagged at the time of the incident, as well as any players that are currently tagged under IB.
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So as you can see staff almost let Ramp not even serve IB suspension but end up being they had to serve the last few days (during no repop days). There were no penalty for Ramp killing mobs when they were suppose to b suspended because they were considered a new guild. But when TMO reformed to Forshaken they are considered the same guild and get a 3 week suspension (included this week deleted loot). How id that fair?
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:45 AM
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HAY GUISE

WE GOT A 7 DAY SUSPENSION FROM VP

DON'T WORRY THO

WE GET UNBANNED ON MONDAY AND SHIT REPOPS ON TUESDAY

SO LOL JOKES ON THEM
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Old 06-10-2015, 10:28 AM
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:06 AM
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Just posting here to clear it up. Anonymous has no direct enemies (at least from our end), we have been asked to merge in with a few guilds and our stance is the same. We are prepared to stand on our own now in the current raid environment and come velious.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:10 AM
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With Forsaken suspended till velious and rampage having 2 weeks of uncontested kills I think the velious launch of blue will be interesting..


And by interesting I mean it's going to suck.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:12 AM
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You can go off of Sirken's quote there and see their reasoning that they, as a new entity, would be allowed to have some autonomy in what their guild's raiding style would be like. It's just a punishment for not asking for permission and pretty shitty they weren't warned by staff beforehand.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:15 AM
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Wasn't Rampage formed from several guilds, though? And didn't an overwhelming majority of the current members of Foreskin come from a single entity? Seems like a difference to me.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:24 AM
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Wasn't Rampage formed from several guilds, though? And didn't an overwhelming majority of the current members of Foreskin come from a single entity? Seems like a difference to me.
If you wanna argue about some minor details (85% of IB moved over while 95% of TMo moved over or whatever) go ahead. There are no specific rules what is considered a "new guild" anyways.

All im saying is it looks biased when staff is pushing for Ramp to be considered a new guild to avoid serving remainder of its sus. But when TMO reforms in same way it isnt considered a "new guild" after it kills a few mobs in R and then slapped with a very harsh penalty.
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:26 AM
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If you wanna argue about some minor details (85% of IB moved over while 95% of TMo moved over or whatever) go ahead. There are no specific rules what is considered a "new guild" anyways.
What is the likelihood of your 85% figure being fabricated on the spot in order to prove your point? Do you have any actual numbers to back that claim?
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Old 06-10-2015, 11:32 AM
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What is the likelihood of your 85% figure being fabricated on the spot in order to prove your point? Do you have any actual numbers to back that claim?
It is made up thats why i but "or whatever" after it because no one knows exactly the %. But lets be serious most of the raiding people in ramp came from IB
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