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Old 05-22-2015, 01:40 PM
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I should ask this, too, and I'll combine it with my earlier question:

1) Would choosing Rallos Zek as a "good" race make me KoS in Faydark?

2) What deities are best as it pertains to Velious? I know Rallos Zek is best for Giant faction...

If I re-roll my warrior again (Was Ogre first, now Iksar) I want to roll the best race/deity for velious that fits the gfay starting area...

So basically I could get there with any good race... Dwarf, Gnome, Wood Elf are my top choices for a warrior, to be honest. Tried the evil races. LOVE the ikky, hated the ogre... but I want to try with a good race and see. So I want to know how much of a difference deity makes.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:57 PM
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1) My human cleric of innoruuk was not KOS anywhere in Faedwer - I think you should be okay as inny is directly opposed to Tunare. Might have trouble with the dwarves if anything.

2) Rallos Zek helps with the giants (I think an ogre RZ starts non-kos to Kael). It won't take much to fix faction in Velious, however.
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Old 05-22-2015, 03:04 PM
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I should ask this, too, and I'll combine it with my earlier question:

1) Would choosing Rallos Zek as a "good" race make me KoS in Faydark?
It should make you KOS in Kaladim (and maybe with certain guards in Butcherblock) without a bit of faction work. It did not do so when I made my WoodElf Rallos Warrior a couple years back (was indifferent iirc), but they have fixed a lot of faction stuff since then so it may do so now. Neither flavor of elves will be KOS and the affected dwarves are easy enough to avoid and/or fix.
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:13 PM
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:30 PM
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:13 AM
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barbarian shaman are rare? I see quite a few low level ones anyway. In vanilla live there were tons. So people only min/max here now for regen (iksar/troll) or stun immunity (ogre)?

My guild in live back in 99 had a wood elf warrior. Yeah, we never got very far.

I had a human druid and a DE SK. Human druid pretty classy looking in leather, and DESK was best plate look in game in vanilla imo. There were quite a few DESKs back in the day, as well.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:17 AM
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barbarian shaman are rare? I see quite a few low level ones anyway. In vanilla live there were tons. So people only min/max here now for regen (iksar/troll) or stun immunity (ogre)?

My guild in live back in 99 had a wood elf warrior. Yeah, we never got very far.

I had a human druid and a DE SK. Human druid pretty classy looking in leather, and DESK was best plate look in game in vanilla imo. There were quite a few DESKs back in the day, as well.
There are lots of non-optimal race warriors in top guilds. Barb (Argh), wood elf (Tenderizer), halfling (Willfight) just to name a few... They do just fine.

I guess I'd say Human anything, other than maybe Ranger/Rogue who are more often Humans than most classes. Especially something like Human Mage or Wizard would be rare.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:17 AM
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Personally, I don't get the desire to min/max. The majority of us will never see the top end content. And even if you do, you'll get enough gear to really offset the racial choice in the end.

It makes things not as easy, sure, or it streamlines gear choices, but it's not end all/be all.

I tried an ogre warrior and hated it. Went iksar and liked it, but being kos everywhere stinks. I'm gnome now and having a ton of fun AND finding it easier to get groups. Play what you like. Seriously. If the min/max races are what you like, you're in luck. If they aren't, oh well.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:22 AM
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Personally, I don't get the desire to min/max. The majority of us will never see the top end content. And even if you do, you'll get enough gear to really offset the racial choice in the end.

It makes things not as easy, sure, or it streamlines gear choices, but it's not end all/be all.

I tried an ogre warrior and hated it. Went iksar and liked it, but being kos everywhere stinks. I'm gnome now and having a ton of fun AND finding it easier to get groups. Play what you like. Seriously. If the min/max races are what you like, you're in luck. If they aren't, oh well.
Well, it's usually the top end content that has the ability to equalize (to some degree) a non min/maxed race choice since there are stat caps.

Ogre vs <80str/sta race on a war is very noticeable, especially when undergeared. You're right though that some people will hate it due to size/graphics/etc. Just depends on whether the tradeoff in performance is worth it to you.
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Old 05-28-2015, 10:36 AM
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Well, it's usually the top end content that has the ability to equalize (to some degree) a non min/maxed race choice since there are stat caps.

Ogre vs <80str/sta race on a war is very noticeable, especially when undergeared. You're right though that some people will hate it due to size/graphics/etc. Just depends on whether the tradeoff in performance is worth it to you.
Somewhat disagree with first paragraph, totally agree with second.

Here's why I disagree: This server has been in kunark so long that you can get REALLY good gear in EC and minimize the stat disadvantages. Plus, skill DOES account for something. Sure, an equally skilled and geared Ogre/Troll/Ikky Warrior and DE/gnome/wood elf warrior are going to have a noticeable difference among them. But a meh ogre/troll/ikky is not going to be as desirable as a GOOD warrior of whatever race.

Personally, I think if you learn your class you can overcome the stat differences. Sure, life may be a little bit tougher, but 1) the lack of an xp penalty helps ease that burden (though with warrior it's not bad even with the large races) and 2) it's not too hard to overcome (in consideration with the p99 economy, of course).
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