Game Mechanics: Offensive casts should not require pre LoS check

[Syft-X]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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So Gyno and Syft are callin you a liar. I do remember nuking someone through the floor HPK (outdoor zone) without ever seeing them. I don't remember being able to get a target and nuke someone through a wall in an indoor zone.

No proof Nirgon.

There were certain spots where walls weren't coded as walls, a lot of them actually which allowed you to /target someone and cast.

There was a time when you didn't need los at all just target but I don't remember when it was added at beginning of cast.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No proof Nirgon.

Here come da prof mobile...

possible he was not in los when spell started....
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This one pretty blatant imo, no line of sight at all
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Felwithe tunnel area, guy is clearly nowhere near line of sight and more than a few nukes were cast
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Spamming spells thru wall (bank kill), if bank kills aren't the #1 indicator of not requiring los to start, I dunno what is, this was extremely common place
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Half this damn image loads but shows he's hiding behind a pillar casting nukes
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Trading blows, both out of line of sight of each other
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If some of these don't load, I'll fix them when I get home

I'm 100% certain on this mechanic and with insane weapons/gear coming for Velious melee, its a pretty crucial / classic change

[Pikrib]

I would guess they don't show proof though. You would have to have two screenshots one when the spell was cast and one when it landed for proof.

[Nirgon]

people bank killed in gfay/neriak all the time without line of sight and luckily we have an ss of a felwithe bank kill

if you remember bank killing, there's your prof imo

the halfway cut off one of the druid nuking is damning evidence

[Pikrib]

Proof mobile must be broken down because in all of the pics the casters could have been in LoS when the cast started then moved to places you cant see in the images. U need better proof Nirgy so keep lookin for better pics. It will keep ya off the forums for abit.

IDK about the curtains or bookshelf maybe you didn't need a pre LoS check when casting through those because of what I witnessed and what Syft stated earlier.

Seperate issues though.

[Nirgon]

I know you don't want this change but this is proof

[Haynar]

LoS checks at beginning of cast are enforced by client too. Taking out the server side los checks wont change this issue.

H

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LoS checks at beginning of cast are enforced by client too. Taking out the server side los checks wont change this issue.

H

Thanks H please move to resolved because I am right and Nirgy never posted proof.

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[Haynar]

I didn't say its beyond fixing. Enjoy your little timers that show on ur buffs. When winter comes, they will go.

H

[Haynar]

PS. I wont remove the LOs checks on begin casting without removing z checks on combat too.

H