Possible Return

[hammbone]

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[Nirgon]

Whether its having to sit there all night and grief

or sit there all night and get griefed..


Everyone is going to get griefed

[Kringe]

Actually its very easy to farm the setup and really wouldn't take any time at all, just coordination of when to login and to engage is really all the work.

[FAPhoenix]

1) PvP is rarely boring in any way....maybe griefing noobs is
2) If Holo is stopped and other guilds have a shot because of this, why wouldn't these guys eventually join in on some raids?

Just because this is what they want to start for doesn't mean they won't change as they get back into the game. It just seems like they want to make the server more competitive. And seems like a few Holo want the challenge, so here is hoping.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by FAPhoenix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) PvP is rarely boring in any way....maybe griefing noobs is
2) If Holo is stopped and other guilds have a shot because of this, why wouldn't these guys eventually join in on some raids?

Just because this is what they want to start for doesn't mean they won't change as they get back into the game. It just seems like they want to make the server more competitive. And seems like a few Holo want the challenge, so here is hoping.

I dunno. Holo tried to have a competitive atmosphere at the one time it was realistically possible - right after Nihilum was disbanded. We kept running into 30-40 man Azrael squads and they told Colgate to recruit and contest.

Asking them to back off after they won just seems like sour grapes you feelers?

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno. Holo tried to have a competitive atmosphere at the one time it was realistically possible - right after Nihilum was disbanded. We kept running into 30-40 man Azrael squads and they told Colgate to recruit and contest.

Asking them to back off after they won just seems like sour grapes you feelers?

lol, this isn't how it happened. nice revisionist history though.

[Ragnaros]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol, this isn't how it happened. nice revisionist history though.

that's exactly how it happend

[Coffee]

looking forward to kringe falling in line and taking orders from the snout

c u in sleepers

[Kringe]

Originally Posted by Coffee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

looking forward to kringe falling in line and taking orders from the snout

c u in sleepers

Shh Retti grownups are talking atm.

[FAPhoenix]

Absolutely I feel it, and since when does the #1 incumbent want change (and why should they). In what I do we always look for the "rule of three" which basically shows in a balanced market 3 generalists are in charge. But none can have more than 50-70% of the market or it is out of balance.

This server lacks a third strong guild, giving the assumption here that Fresh has the numbers to compete and will keep trying.

If these guys disrupt enough for someone to rise into that third slot the server would be much more interesting, at least I think it would be.