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Old 03-30-2015, 12:04 PM
Raev Raev is offline
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Yes Daldaen, but that is not a reason to make him arbitrarily harder "because players killing the AoW isn't classic". We know his DI/DB and cooldown, give him a good amount of ATK and high AC (I agree its not nearly high enough when Rogues are doing 70 dps) and see what happens.

Koros and I are pretty sure that if he's classically tuned he's going to go down very rapidly; you and Treats are not. Make him classic and we'll find out.
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Old 03-30-2015, 12:14 PM
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I don't doubt he will go down quick. I doubt he will go down quick with a controlled tanking strategy. IF he is tuned classicly yes.

It sounds like he needs more ATK and higher AC to make this happen.

He will either be charm killed or mass zerged.

Rampage, TMO, Taken, BDA, and Gimpatron can all field 80+ man forces with known windows. When AoW is up and a guild is likely to wipe on a tank swap or charm break, you can bet vultures will be circling ready to swoop on.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the first kill occurs when one guild wipes at 50% and the next gets FTE before it Regens and goes the rest of the distance. Infact I fully expect that to become a common place strategy on many mobs. Pressure the competition to jump early and wipe, then snipe FTE and get a mob with a chunk of its health already gone. Trakanon already works like this, so too will many Velious mobs.
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Old 03-30-2015, 01:31 PM
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I don't doubt he will go down quick. I doubt he will go down quick with a controlled tanking strategy. IF he is tuned classicly yes.

It sounds like he needs more ATK and higher AC to make this happen.

He will either be charm killed or mass zerged.

Rampage, TMO, Taken, BDA, and Gimpatron can all field 80+ man forces with known windows. When AoW is up and a guild is likely to wipe on a tank swap or charm break, you can bet vultures will be circling ready to swoop on.

I wouldn't be shocked at all if the first kill occurs when one guild wipes at 50% and the next gets FTE before it Regens and goes the rest of the distance. Infact I fully expect that to become a common place strategy on many mobs. Pressure the competition to jump early and wipe, then snipe FTE and get a mob with a chunk of its health already gone. Trakanon already works like this, so too will many Velious mobs.
god dats sick.
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Old 03-30-2015, 01:43 PM
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god dats sick.
The sickness is real.

However it is nothing compared to your typical Red player who derives their only joy from the game by disrupting and ruining others play time. Why else would people get fungi/epic twinked Alts and sit in dungeons PKing noobs in cloth?

Not to mention the rampant racist and homophobic slurs slung around by your typical red player. The fact that you need code words for these slurs because GMs started suspending over their use is evidence of a true sickness.
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Old 03-30-2015, 02:49 PM
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and blue has people who sit there ducking call of the hero for upwards of 16 hours to get a low-tier mob like talendor

UR MOVE DAWG
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Old 03-30-2015, 08:33 PM
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and blue has people who sit there ducking call of the hero for upwards of 16 hours to get a low-tier mob like talendor

UR MOVE DAWG
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Old 03-30-2015, 03:05 PM
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Would rather be on a server with those afflicted by a sickness that drives them to stare at a wall for 16 hours for bad loot, and end up wasting their own time. Rather than a server where an equivalent amount of time is spent by a player gearing out and twinking an alt for the sole purpose of griefing new players, thereby wasting others time just so that they can get some amount of satisfaction besting a cloth wearing newbie with their fungi+Ragebringer.

They don't duck cast CotH anymore. They just stare at a wall now.
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Old 03-30-2015, 04:37 PM
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im with the taken guy, want true red? wipe it clean so people start from 0 and we will see true pvp and not people farming shit in blue to buy shit in red .

Mental note, find the SS of my killing 2 rogue twinks with epics and fungys with my stupid lvl 35 paladin with fineplate and a baton of faith. to shove it into Goredbetwink.org.com
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Old 03-31-2015, 10:33 AM
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Sounds like Rogean wants to open a Discord server

Who among you is brave enough to fight the Avatar with me there
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Old 03-31-2015, 05:18 PM
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You're missing the point. I confirmed that warriors weren't one shotted. Most were, but Furor had the best gear, and our 2nd main tank had just about the same amount of gear to tank also without being killed outright. I didn't say anything about just someone tanking him. I'm talking a collected effort of an entire raid force with increased stats from end game zones of ToV and Sleepers to be able to kill AoW by the end of Velious. I will say he will be killed way sooner than he was on live, because of the different tactics, sheer numbers of people in a guild and things still being different than it was on live.

You can throw 60 ragebringer rogue alts but if their attack/stats aren't up to par it won't do shit to his hps/regen/how long the fight will be. This is combining items from ToV, Primals, haste items, better item BiS items at the end. I want to say if there wasn't an update and change in stats to most ToV items, AoW would haven't been killed before the expansion ended "legitly". Maybe I have the time line from tov upgrades and AoW kill that we and LoS did before the expansion ended mixed up, but I don't think so.

Just saying over all throwing numbers at a mob doesn't mean you can kill it just because of numbers. The best way to describe AoW at the start of Velious was like 100 lvl 20s attacking Brother Quinn and being killed pretty damn fast. It totally changed at the end with everyone geared up.
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