Blade of Carnage drop on beta

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it isn't unique. Just because you have prior knowledge doesn't mean things are working as they did on live. We had over 80 people with BIS along with another 20-30 people who were our sister guild and close in quality of gear. The fight lasted so long, I can't even tell you if it was 35 mins or 1hr.

I know for a fact Karana and AoW on here compared to live is nothing even remotely close. Just because you can theory quest eq numbers doesn't make it so. There is a reason why two of the best guilds in EQ had to wait an entire expansion to make a real attempt on him and you can't chalk it up to "internet connections".

200 man zerg on day one even if they knew what to do, wouldn't even be close to what AoW was on live.

EVERYBODYS MATH IS ALWAYS WRONG.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Ambrotos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just because you can theory quest eq numbers doesn't make it so.

As long as you admit you don't have any mathematical basis for your opinion, I'm fine with it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gyno referring to himself of course.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As long as you admit you don't have any mathematical basis for your opinion, I'm fine with it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gyno referring to himself of course.

u got a problem?

[Nirgon]

Like people said we had Yelinak wipes and it really was because of how many people would DC during fights.

How many clerics and rogues were present? Their hp totals can't be completely off. Maybe their AC... parse them on live.

[Nirgon]

Would like a with an without primal parse on dis mob

P99 Beta and live, both

[Nirgon]

Well also your hit chance against something that many levels higher..

[Raev]

I think Koros did his math on 5x max hits, not 8, so the percentage should be even lower.

Anyway, I think the real point with the Avatar of War is that he has no AE, so you can zerg him. If you want more DPS on a NTOV Dragon, you have to bring more Rogues *and* the shamans/resist gear/clickies/etc to keep them alive. Here you just have people log on their naked-except-for-ragebringer rogue alts.

Also welcome back to real discussion, Treats (no sarcasm)

[Rais]

Wait. You're comparing AoW a year and a half after he was first killed and combat logs from Shadows of Luclin era?
Has any of this information you are getting from these logs applying the AA abilities of the person in the logs?

[Treats]

Yeah IDK, his ATK had to have been off the charts considering Luclin AA's.

With the hard cap at 289 AC your warriors had to have that very early on in Velious. Mitigation couldn't have been the problem, it was having enough total HP to survive the RNG spikes.

Doubt you would let some cleric in the chain with a shitty connection that couldn't make heals. It's not even possible to account for human error in these numbers anyway.

From a classic standpoint, anyone trying to tank him with under 6500-7000 HP should probably just get smashed. Sure you could survive some rounds but eventually the RNG will catch up. You could have 200 Rogues with Ragebringers but if he's not being tanked and running around slaughtering people it doesn't even matter.

Factor in his AC also resulting in a terribly long duration you wouldn't have enough mana anyway.

I'm sure you attempted him multiple times after they nerfed the charm in Kael Rais? If you couldn't kill him before you did I'm sure there was a pretty good reason why.

You didn't use Frozen guy because of HP to tank AoW, he just put out the most DPS because of CHA buff haha.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You could have 200 Rogues with Ragebringers but if he's not being tanked and running around slaughtering people it doesn't even matter.

With a 1.5s cooldown, N rogues will last (ignoring backstab/riposte issues) 1.5N seconds and do roughly 1.5N * (N/2) * 50 total damage. With 1M hp for the AoW, solving gives N=163 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]