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Old 11-28-2010, 08:57 AM
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What about the goings-on that happened a couple months ago where those people were banned and no guilds were punished at all? Honestly, I just don't get it. This is not the first time it's happened within DA but it is the first time we see the entire guild get punished for it. I understand you want to separate the cheats from the legit players wearing the same tag, but ultimately if this sort of thing occurs multiple times within the same tag then you have to start considering that it might be somewhat of a pattern. There are really cool players in DA. In fact I knew some of the original members, but when the wheel that's turning for recruitment is so damn fast because of burnout you just never know who the hell you're recruiting. Having 1 bad apple in a high position can set a tone for the entire guild and I think we can all agree -- even some DA members -- that DA has had some bad apples for a while now.

I've stated this a million times over: just get rid of the god damn variance. It serves absolutely NO practical purpose. Poopsock is over and variance didn't even work back then. It will have to get dumped eventually, so just get rid of it now. We'll all know when the damn thing spawns and there will be far less incentive to use cheats like this. Furthermore, as abacab has stated a million times over, it's damn near impossible to truly detect it with 100% certainty unless there's a p99 downloaded program that's coded by the staff and downloaded to our PCs. Frankly, I would love to see it but the GMs have reiterated that they simply won't do that. Solution? Get rid of the stupid variance.
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Old 11-28-2010, 08:59 AM
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btw, the incident before we had guilds actually parked at spawns *before* they would spawn and in the *particular order* they would spawn. Clearly the officers/raid leaders *must* have known. I can't speak for the recent accusations, though.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:23 AM
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other guilds appear quite happy to keep their suspended players after they have been found cheating/training purposefully.

i'm not in DA either. just saying. this seems a bit odd to have been applied to DA but not to others.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:27 AM
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other guilds appear quite happy to keep their suspended players after they have been found cheating/training purposefully.

i'm not in DA either. just saying. this seems a bit odd to have been applied to DA but not to others.
Ain't hating on Jaytee cause we bros but...

When Jaytee was banned for duping, he was still in DA on his rogue, so it's not as if DA actively removes those found guilty.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:18 PM
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HOLY SHIT ABACAB, SHUT UP! No one cares about your plight to get unbanned anymore. You're entire argument is that two wrongs make a right and it is simply ridiculous.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:33 PM
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HOLY SHIT ABACAB, SHUT UP! No one cares about your plight to get unbanned anymore. YOUR entire argument is that two wrongs make a right and it is simply ridiculous.
Fixed BTW.

I don't see abacab as trying to get unbanned, I just see him pointing out some hypocrasy and inconsistent punishments. Anyone who has been in a guild, or in the leadership circles of a guild know what is going on. Too much is always said by people in the know. There is no doubt in my mind that the DA leaders knew what was going on; waaay too much evidence to support it.
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:58 PM
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Fixed BTW.
thanks btw, I had just woken up. I actually meant "you are entire argument..." though, so umm, yea.
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Old 11-28-2010, 09:47 AM
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Wait. Who's Dark Ascension?
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:35 AM
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At least the second time DA membership has been caught using seq on raid mobs. Thankfully everyone knows you get 4 chances before there's any real disciplinary action.

See you on top of spawn points 2 minutes before they spawn in a week DA!
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:48 AM
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DA wasn't banned because they contribute to the continued existence of P1999 through monetary donations. You cannot ban an entire guild and cut off a cash flow that has been coming in steady for several months.

It always comes back to whose pockets are being filled with cash.

So everyone that is wondering why....here is your reason.
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