CHA stat for enc - mez, charm, aoe stun, fear, lull

[Rayzor84]

Go agnostic for sure for non Los with illusion.

[Teneran]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

forget hide and invis. invis takes too long to cast (and you need to target yourself) and hide can fail. The whole idea of charm solo'ing is to break your charm when your charmed pet is very low health, so failures on hide will mean your pet dying and no exp...or you'll have to be much more conservative and hit hide early to give yourself a chance to try again, which will mean spending more mana to finish off the mob.

you need a goblin gazughi ring. if you are charm solo'ing you can outfit your chanter with almost no money (for whatever reason, charisma items are very cheap and accessible). Buy a set of charisma gear and save up for a gazughi ring.

you can also camp it yourself at relatively low lvl if you would like to do it that way.

you won't be charming right from the time you enter the world...and you may find that you enjoy the enchanter grouping life once you start making friends.

You can charm solo just fine using invis, I've been doign it for 14 levels. The Gazughi ring is a 6k item ... what starting player has 6k? I don't even have 600pp at 26. And while the mob who drops the ring is easy enough to kill, finding it and getting it to drop is not so easy (or the ring wouldn't cost 6k).

Sure, the ring is nice to have and makes things easier and more efficient but you don't "need" it. For one, unless either the chamred mob or the target are dotted or poisoned, they won't continue to drop health while you take 3 seconds to invis yourself (in fact they will regen health). Also, it's pretty trivial to target yourself, cast invis, target your formally charmed mob and root it, then kill both mobs.

Good luck.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I had no ring on red until level 57. Taper enchantment works well in most scenarios barring caster mobs or mobs parked near caster mobs (your charm will be below some junk buff the have in themselves).

Invis works great too but it does take a sec to cast and of course you have to constantly reload spells (which you probably do anyways).

Basically, I've lost a non-zero amount of xp to not having a ring but it's nowhere near 8k worth. You can easily make the other methods work, you just need to practice.

[captnamazing]

I used invis to charm solo on my enchanter up to around high thirties, maybe 40. Had some spare plat so I got him a goblin ghaz ring. Absolutely worth it! The insta click makes it convenient to leave pet up with <5% hp, so I can shave it off with a tiny nuke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dezik]

All these ppl saying ring is not a must have item have obviously never had one. It might not be 100% necessary but is absolutely worth the 6k and then some... On demand charm cancel is no small thing.

[Jimjam]

invis undead 10 more mana but a quicker cast time iirc.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Originally Posted by Dezik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All these ppl saying ring is not a must have item have obviously never had one. It might not be 100% necessary but is absolutely worth the 6k and then some... On demand charm cancel is no small thing.

On demand charm breaking was really only half the value of what ring used to have. Being able to cast immediately after a charm break was pretty fancy until they added Gcd via clicky to both servers. Now it just saves a minute amount of experience for the times you goof or taper doesn't pull it off.

If all I had in my bank was 6k to gear out an enchanter id buy spells, glamour rod and basic gear every time over getting a ring.

Not worth it IMO

[Teneran]

What I do is have the target rooted then back the pet off and hit guard. Then the 5 seconds it takes to invis is not a big deal and i have never lost XP from it unless my target or pet was poisoned or dotted and i cut it too close.

Maybe someday with i have 6k lying around I'll buy the ring or I'll try and farm it if it isn't camped but since I'm at like 600pp i doubt that will happen soon.

[Dezik]

Originally Posted by Yumyums Inmahtumtums [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On demand charm breaking was really only half the value of what ring used to have. Being able to cast immediately after a charm break was pretty fancy until they added Gcd via clicky to both servers. Now it just saves a minute amount of experience for the times you goof or taper doesn't pull it off.

If all I had in my bank was 6k to gear out an enchanter id buy spells, glamour rod and basic gear every time over getting a ring.

Not worth it IMO

Umm, well obviously you are going to buy spells first and obviously you need some basic gear to get CHA high enough to make charm killing viable.. how does that some how make the ring not worth it? It is absolutely worth it. Try playing an enchanter with one and then without one.. it is immensely easier and more efficient with the ring. I've leveled an enchanter up both ways. Sure if I ONLY had 6k to my name and a naked enchanter I would buy other things first, but that doesn't mean the ring isn't worth every penny of 6,000 plat.

[Mentathiel]

Originally Posted by Dezik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try playing an enchanter with one and then without one.

Lend me 6k pp or your ring and I'll happily test out your hypothesis on my enchanter... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]