Suave Not Associated With Azrael

[Drakaris]

Yeah 40v40 would be fun, but the 40 azrael players only log on during Christmas for uncontested pixels [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[MavstabYoudead]

wasn't even 40 and you guys had 60 between two guilds. still salty I guess.

[heartbrand]

I say this with no trolling intentions though I know it will likely be met with that, I think huge 60 v 60 fights are a ton of fun and it's a real shame AZ in the name of "not zerging" is uninterested in growing to that size. I still think the DL fight which was 100+ people at it's peak was one of the best pvp moments the server ever had, and when you artificially cap your guild to the size required to kill the raid mob you're cheating yourselves and the box out of these fun fights.

You don't like to "zerg" we get it, but obviously other people do, so adapt and recruit or at the very least make some PvP alliances with other guilds [unlikely though given Lite's diplomacy] and get fighting. This zone hugging, boat camping, gank crew PvP is bleh and uninteresting, at least to me.

My 2 shekels.

[pgerman]

sounds good in theory, but eq zones can't even handle that many people, and anything over like 40 people in a zone is a shit show for pvp


PVE is doable with those numbers, but 20v20 is about the sweet spot for mass eq pvp.

[Rekrul]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say this with no trolling intentions though I know it will likely be met with that, I think huge 60 v 60 fights are a ton of fun and it's a real shame AZ in the name of "not zerging" is uninterested in growing to that size. I still think the DL fight which was 100+ people at it's peak was one of the best pvp moments the server ever had, and when you artificially cap your guild to the size required to kill the raid mob you're cheating yourselves and the box out of these fun fights.

You don't like to "zerg" we get it, but obviously other people do, so adapt and recruit or at the very least make some PvP alliances with other guilds [unlikely though given Lite's diplomacy] and get fighting. This zone hugging, boat camping, gank crew PvP is bleh and uninteresting, at least to me.

My 2 shekels.

So take sirken's advice and stop inviting every single person on the box and maybe another guild will grow to that size. Most people are just going to join holocaust bc it's the easiest there.

It doesnt have to be az that blows up, it could be a new guild or any guild, listen to sirken when he's telling you youre hurting the server at this point.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say this with no trolling intentions though I know it will likely be met with that, I think huge 60 v 60 fights are a ton of fun and it's a real shame AZ in the name of "not zerging" is uninterested in growing to that size. I still think the DL fight which was 100+ people at it's peak was one of the best pvp moments the server ever had, and when you artificially cap your guild to the size required to kill the raid mob you're cheating yourselves and the box out of these fun fights.

You don't like to "zerg" we get it, but obviously other people do, so adapt and recruit or at the very least make some PvP alliances with other guilds [unlikely though given Lite's diplomacy] and get fighting. This zone hugging, boat camping, gank crew PvP is bleh and uninteresting, at least to me.

My 2 shekels.

that's something i've never understood about the current opposition.

everyone that was in a decent guild on live reminisces and is nostalgic about those massive all day fights between guilds

i dont really get people who dont enjoy them

every fight i've had in 30v30 or more has been far more fun than any other regardless of the winner

someone needs to usurp Lite and make a real guild

[Rednaros]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's something i've never understood about the current opposition.

everyone that was in a decent guild on live reminisces and is nostalgic about those massive all day fights between guilds

i dont really get people who dont enjoy them

every fight i've had in 30v30 or more has been far more fun than any other regardless of the winner

someone needs to usurp Lite and make a real guild

30v30? Your beyond insane, you guys recruit any and every pulse on the server. You should be praising azrael for continueing to pick fights where they are DISTURBINGLY outnumbered. We constantly go up against 50-70 players while fielding 15-25. It isnt our problem, we are recruiting, we are making every effort we can, there isnt many RED players to recruit who dont want the easy way out. Like Sirken said, Holocaust is being selfish and damaging the server. The population is inflated due to the blue members leveling up characters just to join holocaust to park a character in there and log on once a week to collect their paycheck. Your members dont play the game, that attitude and playstyle has been known before to hurt a server. If there isnt a raid mob due, Holocaust is nowhere to be found, when a mob spawns there is 50+. It all starts within Holocaust leadership, they only log on for raiding, which sets a bad example for their members and damages the whole idea of an active server. Instead of exhausting the population why dont you figure out ways to increase competition besides blaming the resistance and complaining, we are putting in effort to make this server a more fun enviroment that promotes pvp and contesting opposing forces, why arent you? We dont care about controlling every dragon on the box, we are all about playing the game as we see enjoyable, if you want to see competition on the box, stop complaining that we cant summon a non exsisting 50 people to compete with your zerg that only plays once a week, ask yourself what YOU can do about it.

[heartbrand]

I just find the 20 v 20's to be way too snow bally. Whichever side loses the first couple of people usually can't come back, whereas in the huge PvP it can turn into an hour plus long rez fest of who can control and lock down the zone. I also haven't noticed the lag issue, but I guess if you're a euro ya GG

[heals4reals]

Winner of a 20v20 can look at raid targets from afar in velious

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by heals4reals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Winner of a 20v20 can look at raid targets from afar in velious

velious has been coming for 1.5 years....let's pretend like that is the reason you zerg.