i dont always start threads, but when i do

[Guido]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best advice i can give is to recruit smarter. either recruit people that will find your guild appealing, or, change your guild to make it more appealing to a larger group of players.

sirken,

with hopes to have 4 factions as you say

the sever pop as it is cant function with such a zerg

there is no members left, unless we poach some of the other guilds.

the root of the problem here is the zerg mentality. not sure how you do not see this.

it hurt us during nihilum era, and will continue to do so

[Slowride]

Originally Posted by Guido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sirken,

with hopes to have 4 factions as you say

the sever pop as it is cant function with such a zerg

there is no members left, unless we poach some of the other guilds.

the root of the problem here is the zerg mentality. not sure how you do not see this.

it hurt us during nihilum era, and will continue to do so

This is coming from someone who has been on this EMU I say AGAIN EMU (which means red is my only server) less then a month, why I will never join a guild like Azreal. You guys flame people in rags and make joke's about it in ooc. For example someone did something to me simply because I have a holo tag and I said nothing to them. They then resorted to ooc trash talk about how I am a blue player and its ok to cause me exp loss cause its a pvp server and i have need a tampon etc etc... I said nothing to these guys. The way i see it is i should of been crying in ooc because I am the dude who lost exp.. But these attention starved people had to do everything in there power to make me look like the bad guy for doing nothing but simply kiteing. And then get mad because I would not respond to there trolls.

[Nirgon]

The roach is back

[Steel Warrior]

Originally Posted by Slowride [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is coming from someone who has been on this EMU I say AGAIN EMU (which means red is my only server) less then a month, why I will never join a guild like Azreal. You guys flame people in rags and make joke's about it in ooc. For example someone did something to me simply because I have a holo tag and I said nothing to them. They then resorted to ooc trash talk about how I am a blue player and its ok to cause me exp loss cause its a pvp server and i have need a tampon etc etc... I said nothing to these guys. The way i see it is i should of been crying in ooc because I am the dude who lost exp.. But these attention starved people had to do everything in there power to make me look like the bad guy for doing nothing but simply kiteing. And then get mad because I would not respond to there trolls.

We almost all have that experience. Sometimes they try to hide behind other tags like Albanian Dance Floor Massacre and so on, but everyone eventually figures it out, and it just evolves into continuing trash talk whenever they manage to catch you alone 2 or 3 or 6 versus one. They call you a trash can and tell you to go back to blue.

Then they wonder why no one likes them.

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Slowride [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is coming from someone who has been on this EMU I say AGAIN EMU (which means red is my only server) less then a month, why I will never join a guild like Azreal. You guys flame people in rags and make joke's about it in ooc. For example someone did something to me simply because I have a holo tag and I said nothing to them. They then resorted to ooc trash talk about how I am a blue player and its ok to cause me exp loss cause its a pvp server and i have need a tampon etc etc... I said nothing to these guys. The way i see it is i should of been crying in ooc because I am the dude who lost exp.. But these attention starved people had to do everything in there power to make me look like the bad guy for doing nothing but simply kiteing. And then get mad because I would not respond to there trolls.

Your in a guild that treats server rules like floor mats. Might want to research who you hang with before you make a commitment. exp loss happens in pvp all the time. just yesterday I was kiting just like you, got snared and died. Oh and guess what? He was a holo member, a cool one which is rare but that's not my point. Point is, in pvp shit happens bro, get up, dust off, and either go elsewhere, contest, or log for a bit.

[quido]

Even without looking towards Velious and such, I think Holocaust is doing a service for red with their M.O.

As a mere hypothetical, let's pretend that all of Holocaust's leadership ghosts and the guild falls apart. I think this would leave red in a more interesting situation than we were left with upon Nihilum's demise. Holocaust has made it a part of their identity to take in, train, and gear up new players. And thus far, they have done an incredible job at this. I think it's throwing the server a more interesting change than Nihilum ever did. Nihilum didn't embrace the fresh blood quite like Holocaust does. When you look at what percentage of the loot was banked or went to people like Vaporize, Strydur, etc, it's not difficult to see why the server had trouble keeping new folks around.

But Holocaust? Holo has done a much better job embracing new players. Newerish people receive quality loots in the fairest loot distribution system I have yet seen in an Everquest guild. There's not this elitist attitude like "this guy is too scrubby for that item" - it's merely "does he deserve it?" I want my new crew of pals to stay together forever, but should some of them decide Holo isn't right for them, at least Holocaust likely enabled them to get a running start on the server and get some experience and a few pieces of gear before they left. Some day, in more tumultuous times on red, this could make for a more interesting server dynamic than Nihilum left us.

[Crazycloud]

There were 40 people in Azraels teamspeak for uncontested pofear CT. They can def contest if they were not scared.

Problem is they don't work together. I pvp with some of the worse pvpers I've ever played with (sry to some holo pals) but atleast they see that i still pvp with them. Most Azrael only pvp with their core members because they are afraid of a YT.

[Ragnaros]

Pras sirken pras holocaust hurting server health

[Ragnaros]

Honestly if you want to make fun, bring nizzar back and watch how fast holocaust gets destroyed within a month. Thats the only way i ever see balanced guild pvp hitting this server. Right now Holocaust is inviting anyone with a pulse and doesnt even have an app process like nihilum had. If Nizzar were to come back there would be a world war on red99, we will quickly find out whos loyal and who has been waiting in the shadows. On a second note, the second largest guild on the server also happens to be a.holocaust feeder guild, when holocaust feels threatened on repop day they summon the bat phone warrior maximillien and 30 more fresh players to occupy the allready established 60 man holocaust zerg, it will keep getting worse and worse

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly if you want to make fun, bring nizzar back and watch how fast holocaust gets destroyed within a month. Thats the only way i ever see balanced guild pvp hitting this server. Right now Holocaust is inviting anyone with a pulse and doesnt even have an app process like nihilum had. If Nizzar were to come back there would be a world war on red99, we will quickly find out whos loyal and who has been waiting in the shadows. On a second note, the second largest guild on the server also happens to be a.holocaust feeder guild, when holocaust feels threatened on repop day they summon the bat phone warrior maximillien and 30 more fresh players to occupy the allready established 60 man holocaust zerg, it will keep getting worse and worse

Nizzar abused, and ruined his opportunity to play here. if he returns, ill ban him, and ill punish any guild that knowingly harbors him within their ranks.