i dont always start threads, but when i do

[Ragnaros]

Holocaust has literally done nothing for server population, if anything they are killing it. Fresh on the otherjand has played a decent role in the growth.

[MavstabYoudead]

yet we have new recruits, so again end of argument, stop posting, etc.

people that like to pvp and want to play with other good players will always have a home in azrael.

[Nirgon]

Do you know how hard it is to get your numbers up in Azrael?

Be in the same zone as players and guild invite them.

Oh man, what a complex task. Fresh has no problem doing it. Azrael? Hm.

Maybe someone will do it for you? I dunno I'll make a lvl 1 and you can tag it, give officer and I'll get you 20-30 people. I'm not getting them epics for you though. Gotta put your big boy pants on and HELP NEW PLAYERS.

Originally Posted by Ragnaros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holocaust makes this server huge and gears out otherwise bronze/advisor robe rags geared players... like me!

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you know how hard it is to get your numbers up in Azrael?

Be in the same zone as players and guild invite them.

Oh man, what a complex task. Fresh has no problem doing it. Azrael? Hm.

Maybe someone will do it for you? I dunno I'll make a lvl 1 and you can tag it, give officer and I'll get you 20-30 people. I'm not getting them epics for you though. Gotta put your big boy pants on and HELP NEW PLAYERS.

we don't want people that expect a free ride. that's what holocaust is there for. lol at anyone taking you seriously literally did nothing on this server until you could find a zerg to ride to the top and you are still awful.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by MavstabYoudead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we don't want people that expect a free ride. that's what holocaust is there for. lol at anyone taking you seriously literally did nothing on this server until you could find a zerg to ride to the top and you are still awful.

I think you have it backwards, thinking fully geared experienced guild members will magically appear in your ranks without any effort on your part.

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you have it backwards, thinking fully geared experienced guild members will magically appear in your ranks without any effort on your part.

not sure how you got that from what I typed. if you expect to just show up at raids and hit a few buttons and loaf around without paying attention azrael isn't for you. if you show up, listen, contribute value then you'll be welcomed without a doubt. clear?

[Ragnaros]

God`s Work could of made a run to the top if Vaporize and co. played and led still, unfortunatley after losing a contested innoruuk to 10 people Holocaust and company.resorted to irl personal attacks and mass petitioning causing them to leave

[heartbrand]

At the end of the day most people came to red99 for huge zone sprawling pvp fights of 100+ players. Azrael has helped kill this dream by artificially keeping their guild numbers down, while at the same time attempting to sabatoge others who seek to build guilds to do so. The reason you don't see huge pvp battles is almost completely on azrael. End of thread thanks.

[heartbrand]

I have played this server since it came out. I have seen mavstab in game twice. Take that for what it's worth.

[Nirgon]

Use the guild invite command, be nice to people and help them with things they can't solo

Maybe if they aren't sure what to do, help them with that too

That's literally how we won the raid scene and benefited the entire server