just starting on Red

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naked/low level casters are pretty difficult to pvp with due to low mana pools, lack of spells. Don't get discouraged. Don't stress about PvP.

Most of the time is just easier to bind frequently and eat a gank than waste a gem slot. Most people are pretty cool and won't mess with you too much assuming you don't completely freak out upon getting killed.

General leveling path follows gfay>CB>Unrest>MM. If you're looking for groups up to the mid 30s that's where you'll find the majority of them. PKs will be pretty thick but just bank frequently and bind close, you'll out level them quickly.

Personally, I'd recommend waiting to join a guild until you've had a chance to feel out the situation as it's constantly in flux and there is no reason to burn potential group partners on your way to 60 because of a tag you derive very little benefit from.

Group with everyone, don't burn bridges and learn to pvp.

Look into <Fresh> if you are getting started and you'll see a lot of benefit from it!

[Glosk]

I got a bind at Qeynos, woot! Im spending some time reading up on the pvp stuff, like will guards aggro if you are attacked from another player nearby. Some players con Indiff and others Threatingly, not sure whats that about yet

Thanks everyone for the responses

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Glosk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got a bind at Qeynos, woot! Im spending some time reading up on the pvp stuff, like will guards aggro if you are attacked from another player nearby. Some players con Indiff and others Threatingly, not sure whats that about yet

Thanks everyone for the responses

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

Fresh is alright, I see as the members level they are getting into politics of high end guilds, siding almost exclusively with one. While this does help with raids and etc, it also makes them a target for the opposing guild.
Your best bet is to join a smaller guild, or to simply make some pals along the way. be careful when LFG, never advertise your exact level in ooc. Give a range, ex: low 30s, high 20s, etc.

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If my human wizard has better faction I can attack you and guards don't care, but if you fight back they will crush you. Bad times.

Joining <Fresh> is a good way to get killed by all of the people who like to kill people on the server. Though it's also a good way to get some help possibly... but mostly Fresh is getting to be as bad as Holo it seems and I'd just assume engage any of them.

I would enjoy blackburrow, grind, save gnoll fangs up all til lvl 15 or so then hand all in you've collected. maximizes xp from kills while you're there. From there you can make the trek to Neriak and do some great leveling and grouping in Najena and Solusek A

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

I can't say this for *all* holo members, most are just brainwashed puppets controlled by a leader with the mentality of a child with too much mountain dew.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people that kill everyone on the server do that to people regardless of their tag. The benefit of joining <Fresh> far outweighs the consequence of being on a list you are already on. Furthermore, what exactly does as bad as holo mean? Are we bad because we are successful in making friends and keeping our guild moving forward?

Where is your guild moving forward? Towards Holo? That isn't moving forwards on red, that's moving backwards towards blue.

I was in good with several <Fresh> players before but then it turned into a warm bodies guild and got stupid.

I don't like playing with random assholes. If I can't expect a certain level of quality form a character with a <Tag> then why are they tagged?

[dontbanpls]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is your guild moving forward? Towards Holo? That isn't moving forwards on red, that's moving backwards towards blue.

I was in good with several <Fresh> players before but then it turned into a warm bodies guild and got stupid.

I don't like playing with random assholes. If I can't expect a certain level of quality form a character with a <Tag> then why are they tagged?

You seem to have it all figured out even tho you have no involvement. I doubt anything I can say is going to be read without bias so I'll let you be angry.

[Duckwalk]

Yes lots of fungi twinks in Faydwer. The difference between elf lands and BB though is that while you are still working towards level 10-12 soloing in Qeynos Hills and outer/upper BB, you would be working your way through 20 in Unrest and heading over to find a pond group in MM.

For reference, I did 1-12 in just a couple of hours in gfay/cb. Then the next day I did 12-20 in about 3-4 hours in Unrest yard and later MR. Then the third session I did 20-29 in just a few hours at MM pond. Fourth session I did 29-34 in FM over maybe 2 hours.

If youre in love with the lowbie game definitely take your time and enjoy it. If you've done it already multiple times and rather enjoy 30+ content with decent sized mana pools and a fuller tool box I would highly encourage you to take advantage of groups and the group experience bonus.

[Akalakamelee]

It only takes 1 fungi twink to wreck a group in rags. Force them to call LnS, then enforce it. If someone is enough of a dick this could continue for hours. At least in qeynos area, it's harder to travel to, so fungi twinks don't bother. Think about port locations. Freeport and Gfay have a ton in lower areas, while the closest to qeynos is west karana or north (Toxxulia if they ride the boat) fungi gankers spend upwards of 200-300kp on gear. 50p per port is nothing to them, they usually get ports from their high end buddies anyways. Gfay may be faster with groups, but qeynos is alot safer and easier in the end.