End of the rotation?

[Ninjax]

Originally Posted by Mendo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Camping a toon at the orb means that you no longer have access to your toon and potentially can no longer play the game. I know you are just going to say "Go play some alts." What if people like their toon and would rather not play alts? They shouldn't raid then?
16 hours is a long time to not have access to your main toon. End the variance and then maybe we can talk about camping toons and losing access to them.

For me killing CT in an hour is stupid lame. That means you want us to train all of fear and rush CT. I understand that guilds do this to race each other for an FFA chance at CT but I actually really enjoy the idea of working my way through a plane to get to the god and fighting him.

Choices have consequences. If one decides they have more enjoyment going for a race and large rewards if successful they will do so, if not they will play an alt because that is more enjoyable.

So they are free to do what they find most enjoyable however their choice comes with a consequence now the consequences is one of their maximum enjoyment given the reality of choices they have. We don't exist at the quantum level where one can undertake different simultaneous actions so for us doing X comes at the expense of doing anything other than X. Oh well. If people want the loot enough they will camp their mains and play alts. If they don't then they are already choosing to do something they value more.

[Raev]

I am saying that we don't need to practice camping toons, logging on quickly, or tracking hard for Velious.

Also I love how BDA is alternating between bully and victim in this thread.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also I love how BDA is alternating between bully and victim in this thread.

[sanforce]

I love all of this talk about Taken being so good at competing for FFA targets, yet they still can't compete with class C. Look at their website, "5 FFA targets, 4 FFA targets <Taken>". You can obviously compete with TMO and IB when it comes to an FFA race, which is the exact same thing as a normal Class C race. I don't understand how a lack of VP keys is somehow holding you back. You could be racing for 66% of the mobs outside of VP instead of the 33% that you are currently racing for, and you could start to enter VP races at your own pace.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love all of this talk about Taken being so good at competing for FFA targets, yet they still can't compete with class C. Look at their website, "5 FFA targets, 4 FFA targets <Taken>". You can obviously compete with TMO and IB when it comes to an FFA race, which is the exact same thing as a normal Class C race. I don't understand how a lack of VP keys is somehow holding you back. You could be racing for 66% of the mobs outside of VP instead of the 33% that you are currently racing for, and you could start to enter VP races at your own pace.

Not that I am taking their side, but in order for them to keep up with the two high C's would be if they were capable of gearing themselves at the same time as competing, which without the ability to tackle VP for loot, would prove to be unfruitful either totally or extremely minimally if they were set to lose constantly against not only a bigger couple of forces, but also better geared. Any guild in their right frame of mind would be avoiding that at all costs for the sake of continuing its said existence. After things get stale, nothing gets looted, and all your alts are capped, people tend to leave. Its better to compete with a bunch of lesser geared or same geared guilds, then two larger better geared guilds who have their own mobs on a complete lockdown as is.

Let's not forget why the rotation came into effect in the first place, the very same principle that was just described above, except it was mainly one guild cockblocking the rest of the server. Now you expect them to want to step foot against two guilds like that? Its doubtful at best, but would be commendable if they did.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not that I am taking their side, but in order for them to keep up with the two high C's would be if they were capable of gearing themselves at the same time as competing, which without the ability to tackle VP for loot, would prove to be unfruitful either totally or extremely minimally if they were set to lose constantly against not only a bigger couple of forces, but also better geared. Any guild in their right frame of mind would be avoiding that at all costs for the sake of continuing its said existence. After things get stale, nothing gets looted, and all your alts are capped, people tend to leave. Its better to compete with a bunch of lesser geared or same geared guilds, then two larger better geared guilds who have their own mobs on a complete lockdown as is.

Let's not forget why the rotation came into effect in the first place, the very same principle that was just described above, except it was mainly one guild cockblocking the rest of the server. Now you expect them to want to step foot against two guilds like that? Its doubtful at best, but would be commendable if they did.

You know this is Kunark and anything other than MR gear is practically irrelevant?

[toolshed]

Chest changed his forum avatar because he couldn't bare one more day of idealist Jax looking back at him while he drove the dagger into the rotation

[toolshed]

PS - bring back /guildwar and help alleviate the drama on blue

[Man0warr]

You can't claim Royals if your entire raid force was logged out.

Had same shit happen to us at TolaProt several times - TMO/IB/etc logging in 10min before repop and claiming it and GMs siding with them.

[Susvain2]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't claim Royals if your entire raid force was logged out.

Had same shit happen to us at TolaProt several times - TMO/IB/etc logging in 10min before repop and claiming it and GMs siding with them.

here at TMO, we are better than you and we know it