Simulated Repop and Moving all characters to West Commons

[Fountree]

Didn't really read thread except title but imo a bad idea. What is classic about moving characters against their wishes? What if you don't raid? That would really annoy me if I was moved without wanting to be moved and I wasn't even in a raid guild.

[Daldaen]

People are not reading enough.

Nilbogs original suggestion was anyone in a raiding guild would be moved. Non-raiding guilded or unguilded people would stay put.

@Maskedmellon that already happens. Group with some IB and TMO, and if there is a repop I guarantee almost all of them will camp or gate out of that group the second the ground shakes. If you see them immediately LD, they /quit out and are likely exploiting how IP exemptions work to get on another account ASAP.

The hyper saturation of level 60 raid ready characters is a nonclassic problem and it warrants a nonclassic solution. This solution wouldn't Impact groupers/non-raiders any more than sim Repops do currently. It doesn't resort to messing with spawn timers or token systems or instances. It puts everyone on the most level playing field possible with our current system. Where having 10 level 60s camped at each different raid boss isn't an advantage since they all get punted to WC.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People are not reading enough.

Nilbogs original suggestion was anyone in a raiding guild would be moved. Non-raiding guilded or unguilded people would stay put.

You seem to think people's objections to this come from not understanding you or not reading the idea carefully. People can read just fine. Some folks just don't like the idea.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to think people's objections to this come from not understanding you or not reading the idea carefully. People can read just fine. Some folks just don't like the idea.

If I weren't using a phone to post I would quote the multiple people saying poor little noobs in guilds would get screwed when it was posted multiple times before it would only affect Class C/R guilded players. Later clarified to higher level ones.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem to think people's objections to this come from not understanding you or not reading the idea carefully. People can read just fine. Some folks just don't like the idea.

Those people are the ones that are only considering whether it benefits them personally, and not the overall health of the server.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

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[Tenlaar]

It would be even easier for GMs to not even touch this terrible clusterfuck of an idea.

[Vianna]

I mean the Class C guilds would just bind everyone at VP. All mellee would have gate pots until they used them all up. All Casters would gate to VP. You really wouldn't slow what Class C does down a bit except for making them zone one extra time. Their alts would still be bound at KC and for any mellee that needs a port that aren't bound at KC well they log right in with Wizards and Druids standing right next to them to port them.

You put all of Class C resources in one spot and you will still get out mobolized probably worse than them pre-camping their alts at places. It would be funny knowing repops moved all of the trackers out of raid target zones though.

[Pint]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean the Class C guilds would just bind everyone at VP. All mellee would have gate pots until they used them all up. All Casters would gate to VP. You really wouldn't slow what Class C does down a bit except for making them zone one extra time. Their alts would still be bound at KC and for any mellee that needs a port that aren't bound at KC well they log right in with Wizards and Druids standing right next to them to port them.

You put all of Class C resources in one spot and you will still get out mobolized probably worse than them pre-camping their alts at places. It would be funny knowing repops moved all of the trackers out of raid target zones though.

none of us are really concerned with what class C will do in these events bc if we wanted to be in vp we would be in class C. its more about eliminating the FFA issues atm and making world targets a little more exciting.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

none of us are really concerned with what class C will do in these events bc if we wanted to be in vp we would be in class C. its more about eliminating the FFA issues atm and making world targets a little more exciting.

Which as I just explained this wouldn't slow Class C down a bit. Which means they would still largely get what they wanted outside of VP on repops as well. They just have more resources. So if you want to make them more exciting for everyone you have to find a system that eliminates their resources.