Guild LNS - Page 7

Bazia · #1 01-09-2015, 01:32 PM

my naked 56 warrior wielding golem wands is ready

Glenzig · #2 01-09-2015, 01:42 PM

All these Azrael folks are pretty bent on having LNS taken away. You sure that's what you want? Remember that 2/3 of the server is Holo and Fresh. 200 people corpse camping Azrael may not be in your best interests. You should be fighting tooth and nail for LNS to be more strictly enforced. Not the other way around. Its the only thing keeping you in the game.

Nirgon · #3 01-09-2015, 01:48 PM

No. GMs were up our ass in Velious. They shut down a zone over small man griefing raid targets with the added clause if you pvped immediately following it at common bind points you'd be suspended. We tested them and got suspended.

SZ had no rules, RZ did, this server does.

There's just no way around agreeing with that if you were part of the massive Rebirth vs AD guild war in Velious.

dontbanpls · #4 01-09-2015, 01:58 PM

Azrael just wants the gm's to approve them griefing people off of the box. They are constantly spitting in the face of the PNP.

Adding their own ridiculous rules, such as forcing officers/leaders to be present to call guild lns. Creating time frames for people to lns, refusing to let people drag corpses in areas like seb and then saying that since they created a difficult corpse run that they have the right to corpse camp someone because they didn't manage to recover their corpse in this imagined time frame of their choosing.

This is a guild that needs to go. This is a game and these guy's are doing everything in their power to make it so that isn't true for anyone.

It hurts the image of the project to have these people around constantly shitting on the vision of the staff. A lot of us understand that the GM's can't be around for everything and that they can not be involved in everything, but a lot of people play this game far too much and see this behavior go unpunished very frequently.

The result is that things get more and more out of control. We have seen it go further than it should have many times, and it is very apparent to me that the one thing that is consistent about those events has been Azrael's involvement. The server is doing well to police itself finally and I hope that the staff see's that and will take an opportunity to do more to help. There is no reason that 20 people should be able to prevent 300 from enjoying this project.

heartbrand · #5 01-09-2015, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael just wants the gm's to approve them griefing people off of the box. They are constantly spitting in the face of the PNP.

Adding their own ridiculous rules, such as forcing officers/leaders to be present to call guild lns. Creating time frames for people to lns, refusing to let people drag corpses in areas like seb and then saying that since they created a difficult corpse run that they have the right to corpse camp someone because they didn't manage to recover their corpse in this imagined time frame of their choosing.

This is a guild that needs to go. This is a game and these guy's are doing everything in their power to make it so that isn't true for anyone.

It hurts the image of the project to have these people around constantly shitting on the vision of the staff. A lot of us understand that the GM's can't be around for everything and that they can not be involved in everything, but a lot of people play this game far too much and see this behavior go unpunished very frequently.

The result is that things get more and more out of control. We have seen it go further than it should have many times, and it is very apparent to me that the one thing that is consistent about those events has been Azrael's involvement. The server is doing well to police itself finally and I hope that the staff see's that and will take an opportunity to do more to help. There is no reason that 20 people should be able to prevent 300 from enjoying this project.

Hall of fame caliber post. Id like to add that they consistently shit up blue threads involving red and make the server look poor.

Cappa · #6 01-09-2015, 02:19 PM

I find this thread confusing. Aussie is posting a thread called Guild LNS, just days after Sirken and Derubael went into very specific detail on Monday's stream about how Guild LnS does not exist in the PnP, only Force LnS. Nowhere does Force imply a single guild, or any officers of a guild, or anything for that matter guild related.

Seems this entire thread is moot, and the issue it is attempting to address?

Pikrib · #7 01-09-2015, 03:02 PM

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Hall of fame caliber post.

You two getting along brings a smile to my face and warmth to my frozen heart.

Humerox · #8 01-09-2015, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Azrael just wants the gm's to approve them griefing people off of the box. They are constantly spitting in the face of the PNP.

Adding their own ridiculous rules, such as forcing officers/leaders to be present to call guild lns. Creating time frames for people to lns, refusing to let people drag corpses in areas like seb and then saying that since they created a difficult corpse run that they have the right to corpse camp someone because they didn't manage to recover their corpse in this imagined time frame of their choosing.

This is a guild that needs to go. This is a game and these guy's are doing everything in their power to make it so that isn't true for anyone.

It hurts the image of the project to have these people around constantly shitting on the vision of the staff. A lot of us understand that the GM's can't be around for everything and that they can not be involved in everything, but a lot of people play this game far too much and see this behavior go unpunished very frequently.

The result is that things get more and more out of control. We have seen it go further than it should have many times, and it is very apparent to me that the one thing that is consistent about those events has been Azrael's involvement. The server is doing well to police itself finally and I hope that the staff see's that and will take an opportunity to do more to help. There is no reason that 20 people should be able to prevent 300 from enjoying this project.

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heartbrand · #9 01-09-2015, 02:21 PM

Plz not 2 ban for saying this but the rules on red99 are whatever the GM of the week decides they are when he makes his decision. Just try to lay low and not cause any trouble.

Nirgon · #10 01-09-2015, 02:39 PM

I imagine this thread was not immediately locked/stickied because we expect staff response?

I mean Sirken or whoever decides just decide what you want the rule to be, bat down any rule lawyering as it rolls into this thread.

If you want to get a Skype call together with reps from each guild and nail down any grey areas let us know.

There are definitely questions which don't require too much thinking, just specific scenarios could use some clarification.

Classic PNP is best PNP for server health.

No one wants a 30 population box where the odd "enjoyment" of griefing someone off is the highlight of the experience.