What drug is your favorite?

[Daldolma]

"IMO "the state" is completely superfluous to the whole 'system'. The state offers its citizens nothing that a free market system cant better and for a lower cost."

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

You want to see why a free market system doesn't work? Look outside. If it weren't for the state, the market economy of the most wealthy, most powerful nation in the world would have crumbled overnight. The derivatives market went from next to nothing in 2001 to over $60 trillion by 2008. Do you understand how insanely irresponsible that is? $60 trillion is like the entire world's annual GDP. The money didn't exist. The whole market was being fueled by what was essentially a Ponzi scheme. That's what you get with a free market. Lehman Brothers, Goldman Sachs, Bernie Madoff -- it's all the same. They're trading money they don't have. It was always only a matter of time before it came crashing down, but hey: everyone got rich.

[M.Bison]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not a very well thought-out point of view. Is a free market system going to provide public schooling? How about welfare? Foreign defense? Laws? Law enforcement? Public roads? Public transportation? Health care?

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libert...hapter_29.html

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by M.Bison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I beg to differ, Anarcho-Capitalism is a very well though out point of view. All the things youve listed here can be considered economic goods. If the state were to no longer off public schools, welfare, foreign defense, law enforcement, public roads/transportation, or health care, I can guarantee that some private businesses would offer them. I can say this with certainty because there is money to be made off of each and everyone of these services. One might argue that the services offered privately would be shotty in comparison to what the state currently offers. This is a valid argument, but consider the nature of capitalism; you want to offer the very best product at the absolute lowest price possible. Competition will drive the price down, while simultaneously driving quality up.

If you are truly interested in this line of thinking I'd recommend a book by Dr. Phillip D Friedman, called The Machinery of Freedom. Its a direct cost/benefit of a state vs no state society. And like all good anarcho-capitalist literature its available free on-line! The biggest concern most people show when discussing an anarcho-capitalist society is how will laws and law enforcement be handled. People want to feel protected, and dont mind sacrificing a few freedoms if it means guaranteeing this. This is a valid concern, but instead of diving into a 10 page dissertation of laws and law enforcement on the free market, ill direct you to this link, which has done all the work for me.

http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libert...hapter_29.html

You remind me of that college dude in the bar scene in "Good Will Hunting". The one that regurgitates crap that he read in a book or parrots the same exact thing that his professor told him in class. Do you have original thought....ever!

[nalkin]

ITT: Someone with the correct argument loses the debate.

[SlankyLanky]

bison just ripped this thread a new asshole.

[Rahnza]

Originally Posted by Itchybottom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They probably can't afford coke.

Except coke is a dirty, unhealthy, addictive drug; whereas mdma is (if you don't get shitty product) cleaner, non-addictive, and way more fun.

Cocaine is for frat parties and blacks.

[Dentalplan]

You guys are getting trolled so hard.

[azeth]

Boggwin it's interesting how often you identify that we all "live in mom's basement" etc. I understand that perhaps your scumbag friends may have ruined there lives with drugs, but I think you fail to understand that most/many of us have not. Nor will.. remotely.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boggwin it's interesting how often you identify that we all "live in mom's basement" etc. I understand that perhaps your scumbag friends may have ruined there lives with drugs, but I think you fail to understand that most/many of us have not. Nor will.. remotely.

My scumbag friends, as you put it, were/are just like you...haha.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My scumbag friends, as you put it, were/are just like you...haha.

Just like me huh? Please do tell.