The Al'Kabor Project (PC/Mac) EQmac - EverQuest done right

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A side project in progress is support for the trilogy client. The eqmac code base used for both servers had a trilogy branch. So I am working on support for login server to show a trilogy only server too. Its not even to what would be an alpha state yet. But I hope in next month or two to have it playable with a server ppl can get on and help.

As I have played with the loginserver more, and now that secrets is working on a dual login server solution for shards of dalaya 2.5, I thought why not a dual login for takp/p2002?

pras to Haynar for enchancing the wider EQ emulated community.

[Gaunja]

I've been tempted to give P2002/Alkabor a shot, but just doesn't make sense that they are so similar in their end goals, but splitting their resources and population. The dev teams should really get together and figure something out to make a decent alternative to P99. One can dream.

[apio]

There is one big difference between the servers, one is FFA with no GM intervention and one is Forced Rotations with GM intervention. It is just a completely different vision of the game, and I think you can't really merge them into 1 big server.

It is the real reason for the existence of P2002, in the first place. People whose opinion weren't heard on TAK decided to make their own server, and the rule set of P2002 is a direct result of that conflict.

It is in the interest of both projects for both projects to be successful. I reckon if the P99 playerbase had the choice between 2 servers with those different rule sets, it would also be a more enjoyable experience for everyone. Having the biggest amount of players on your server doesn't matter if people aren't enjoying their time

[Torven]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is reflected in the team post and in every patch that uses your code.

That's a lie. The last patch note you posted had zero credit mention whatsoever, even though Wharhogg copied and pasted our git comments.

When you do credit us, it's typically something like "from eqmacemu:" instead of using developer names. You guys have never once put my name in any patch note.

Furthermore in a recent forum thread, Wharhogg said this:

"Also our upstream code from eqemulator has done many things which we will not include in our next patch....so do not be alarmed if you read other forums."

Laughably going out of his way to avoid mentioning where the code came from, if not outright lying, before arbitrarily deciding what 'makes sense' to omit.

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the current situation is unacceptable to you, just make the project closed source.

I have a better idea. I'll stop submitting server commits. I put in way more time than I had wanted anyway. You're in fact doing me a favor by demotivating me, so thanks.

I'm going to tie up some lose ends in the combat code and simply retire to only adjusting NPC stats for TAKP. I've had enough of people taking credit for my work.

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have contributed a lot to TAK, so have most other P2002 developers.

You seem to have an over-inflated sense of value in writing forum posts while your characters were meditating.

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is the real reason for the existence of P2002, in the first place. People whose opinion weren't heard on TAK decided to make their own server, and the rule set of P2002 is a direct result of that conflict.

Another lie. You made a sever because Speedz banned you. Armed leaders were in fact IN FAVOR of rotations, including Wharhogg who threatened to have his guild level up SKs to mass harm touch raid bosses.

Your basement sever exists solely to spite us.

[Tollen]

Originally Posted by Torven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a lie. The last patch note you posted had zero credit mention whatsoever, even though Wharhogg copied and pasted our git comments.

When you do credit us, it's typically something like "from eqmacemu:" instead of using developer names. You guys have never once put my name in any patch note.

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Torven, your getting worked up over the littlest of details.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Tollen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Torven, your getting worked up over the littlest of details.

Making it look like you are taking credit for someone elses work is not a little detail.

It is actually very significant. Its right up there with Plagiarism imho.

Some people don't see it as that important. I know I don't do that much anyways. But now I do less.

[Tollen]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making it look like you are taking credit for someone elses work is not a little detail.

It is actually very significant. Its right up there with Plagiarism imho.

Some people don't see it as that important. I know I don't do that much anyways. But now I do less.

I agree, my point is the p2002 devs credit the core of the project, torven is getting all worked up cause hes not getting his name put it, over the project he is apart of.

its like saying thanks p99. I don't need to name everyone involved.

[Pokesan]

Right, you strangled mac-emu in the cradle over pixels.

[sOurDieSel]

All the people calling for the servers to merge don't even play on them. As someone who plays on BOTH servers I can firmly say that them being separate servers is for the best and there is no way to merge them at this point and no desire by the devs to do so that boat has long sailed. The two servers might end up with the same content but they have a completely different feel to them.

As a GUILD A&H was AGAINST rotations until the end.

[Secrets]

Originally Posted by sOurDieSel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The two servers might end up with the same content but they have a completely different feel to them.

No, the servers are identical outside of a few mechanics and content changes. There is no 'feeling'; EverQuest isn't a complicated game.

The differences are the administration's attitude towards other staff members.