"Classic" feeling shifting?

[Bodybagger]

Indeed^... I would play the hell out of full classic as I never got to and always felt rather alone in the world with Kunark out and everyone flocking to those zones for gear and higher xp and such

[Bumamgar]

Kaev: The L20 alts in full planar was due to the simple fact that the devs had no idea what the playerbase would figure out and actually do in game that they simply hadn't thought of. Monks FD pulling is another such mechanic that was unplanned by the devs.

Those things weren't by design, but simply due to inexperience with dealing with a community of thousands of people who would think of things in a different way than the dev team itself considered them.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kaev: The L20 alts in full planar was due to the simple fact that the devs had no idea what the playerbase would figure out and actually do in game that they simply hadn't thought of. Monks FD pulling is another such mechanic that was unplanned by the devs.

Those things weren't by design, but simply due to inexperience with dealing with a community of thousands of people who would think of things in a different way than the dev team itself considered them.

hell twisting was emergent gameplay.. kiteing.. most of what we do in eq is emergent

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kaev: The L20 alts in full planar was due to the simple fact that the devs had no idea what the playerbase would figure out and actually do in game that they simply hadn't thought of. Monks FD pulling is another such mechanic that was unplanned by the devs.

Those things weren't by design, but simply due to inexperience with dealing with a community of thousands of people who would think of things in a different way than the dev team itself considered them.

Twinking emergent? ahahahahahahahahaha... <deep breath, count to 10>... twinking was not invented in EQ, EQ devs had plenty experience in MUDs & UO.

FD pulling emergent? quickly obvious in play but yeah probably unanticipated due to poor testing practices

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hell twisting was emergent gameplay.. kiteing.. most of what we do in eq is emergent

Twisting emergent? Explicit mechanics design is now emergent gameplay? wtf? Just because they didn't publish a 3-step howto guide with pictures you're going to call it emergent? I suppose you think using Stun to interrupt an NPC caster is emergent gameplay also, right?

As for kiting... I suppose it's possible there was somebody on the dev team who was not coked out 24/7 who failed to anticipate kiting... maybe

[Mandalore93]

I feel that the perspectives of Luclin and PoP are almost one hundred percent based on nostalgia. Everyone says they hated those expansions...yet live's population continued to climb after PoP for a few years if I recall correctly. People complain about the Luclin Spires, PoK books, and Bazaar. But in truth for their time they were brilliant game mechanics that were light years ahead of their competitors. As someone who really didn't start playing the game until after Luclin released I can say with complete sincerity that the low level game was pretty severely depleted by the time even I had started playing. My grandfather and I duoed for the most part and unless we were in very popular zones such as Crushbone we wouldn't see a soul for days. It wasn't until we started approaching 45 (with level cap of 65) that we began to see other players regularly.

[Rararboker]

Someone please find the great post someone made about how Luclin could be skipped and PoP could be integrated into the server naturally? It was very well made but I can't remember which thread or person put that up. Basically no PoK and all the planes can be access from various places in the world like how Fear is. So to get to Prexus's realm there was a spot near Erudin with the portal, etc etc.

I thought it was how they should have done PoP.

[iruinedyourday]

permadeath server

[sox7d]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

permadeath server

They did make one. It was full PvP too. Everyone quit as soon as they died over lvl 20.

[Master Roshi]

Originally Posted by sox7d [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They did make one. It was full PvP too. Everyone quit as soon as they died over lvl 20.

Discord server? I remember being reset to lvl 1 when killed and full pvp loot rights...Brutal

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Master Roshi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Discord server? I remember being reset to lvl 1 when killed and full pvp loot rights...Brutal

Brutal? Brutally stupid maybe. It was nothing but losers using ShowEQ & movement/autofire hacks due to SOE announcing there would be zero CSR presence/support.