All this MQ flying around

[Faiding]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh to suggest it's a bug is a stretch.

It was just poorly thought out quest handling.

Something that was never ever changed on live. You can still get on 15 years later and MQ a Rogue Epic.

The only thing they did was change it so that when they started getting more sophisticated quests there were hidden flag checks starting in PoP.

To deviate from this would be ultimate CustomQuest.

That being said someone selling their 50th Epic MQ in a few months time is a problem. Let other people do their epics or a random few sell an epic MQ. Don't be a Calabee. We all know how that ends up (you have to be Canadian and French :/.)

It is a bug. Unintended consequences are bugs. Changing it in its current context required a overhaul of the quest system, so Sony left it and just decided not to provide support for it.

That's why current quests on Live are mostly tasks or designed so that MQ'ing is impossible. For example, none of the Epic 2.0's can be MQ'd.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh to suggest it's a bug is a stretch.

It was just poorly thought out quest handling.

Something that was never ever changed on live. You can still get on 15 years later and MQ a Rogue Epic.

The only thing they did was change it so that when they started getting more sophisticated quests there were hidden flag checks starting in PoP.

To deviate from this would be ultimate CustomQuest.

That being said someone selling their 50th Epic MQ in a few months time is a problem. Let other people do their epics or a random few sell an epic MQ. Don't be a Calabee. We all know how that ends up (you have to be Canadian and French :/.)

i remember epic turnins still having a level requirement check. never did i see a low level rogue with epic except for on RZ and those rogues were deleveled with planar armor. never saw a cleric with epic below 50. never saw a shaman epic below 50. ect. I played from classic to popish on Druzzil Ro, RZ, SZ, and Maelin Starpyre. not sure how i never encountered this until p99. i am just speaking from my experience. if brad says its not right, then by god its a bug imo.

[sox7d]

At what point do we admit that a non-classic population makes certain aspects of the game less classic than dogmatic mechanics and policy?

[maahes]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh to suggest it's a bug is a stretch.

It was just poorly thought out quest handling.

Something that was never ever changed on live. You can still get on 15 years later and MQ a Rogue Epic.

The only thing they did was change it so that when they started getting more sophisticated quests there were hidden flag checks starting in PoP.

To deviate from this would be ultimate CustomQuest.

That being said someone selling their 50th Epic MQ in a few months time is a problem. Let other people do their epics or a random few sell an epic MQ. Don't be a Calabee. We all know how that ends up (you have to be Canadian and French :/.)

Was going to post till I read this comment. Well said.

[Toodles]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh to suggest it's a bug is a stretch.

It was just poorly thought out quest handling.

Something that was never ever changed on live. You can still get on 15 years later and MQ a Rogue Epic.

The only thing they did was change it so that when they started getting more sophisticated quests there were hidden flag checks starting in PoP.

To deviate from this would be ultimate CustomQuest.

That being said someone selling their 50th Epic MQ in a few months time is a problem. Let other people do their epics or a random few sell an epic MQ. Don't be a Calabee. We all know how that ends up (you have to be Canadian and French :/.)

That's exactly the point though - it wasn't well thought out (like a lot of things EQ). However these 'mistakes,' or oversights didn't affect the server and the players to the degree or magnitude they do here. As been said many times, the devs and staff knew well ahead of time that this is a different era, a different time and many of the players would be veterans who know everything there is to about EverQuest. Add the internet, voice communications and text messaging and it was quite obvious that the simplistic mechanics of EQ would get exploited by people at the first chance they got.

There was an opportunity to amend certain parts of the game /server to accommodate this, without ruining the 'classic,' experience and yet they did nothing.

In the end it just came down to picking and choosing what they wanted, and MQng was something they wanted. It doesn't even matter whether it's good or bad.

[Fael]

Seriously though. Yall should stop whining. Chardok is game breaking but MQ...

Cite some actual references. What is so damaging about a rogue mq for 30k. There is no bottle neck to the rogue epic, to the shaman epic, to the cleric epic (hearts sell for under 40k). That's about the only serious items that get mq'd.

The other big items like necro and sk epic would never get to the people that cry about not being able to get them. In fact, the casuals who can't make the one inny or ct raid per quarter that it might drop at would be royally screwed if you took away Mq and they happened to not be able to make it.

In short I don't see What is so same offensive about a MQ. Think of all wonderful times that you've been able to Mq things. If anything it is good for casual scum bags.

Dolic

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people want ezmode classic eq.

Nah, it's just due to the fact that the server has been on Kunark for 3 years.

[Lictor]

On live I went from few months before kunark - luclin on Veeshan server. Granted I was some noob high school kid but I don't remember MQ ever being sold. I went until the 50s on p99 just assuming MQ was something put in by a later expansion that was just included in the titanium package. It needs to be eliminated if people want that classic feel.

[Whirled]

Well...IF we're making changes...Shared banks plz

[apio]

They should've never introduced MQ. It wasn't an intended mechanic and has done more bad than good on this server. It had to be PUT IN specifically, so it is a waste of Dev time, since it has to be coded for every single quest, and for every new quest that is coded.

Another example of being too classic for your own good.

There are enough drops to make money off of in the game without selling MQ Epics and JBoots, and it would remove a lot of work from the Devs and GMs to get rid of MQ altogether