So monks got nerfed overall then.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by Rayzor84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone explain why this was necessary? Monks with normal gear can't even solo at my level well enough to make it better than grouping. Warriors and rangers didn't need ANY nerfs.

It baffles me. One of the devs would have to comment on it. Warriors had a hard enough life already

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Rayzor84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone explain why this was necessary? Monks with normal gear can't even solo at my level well enough to make it better than grouping.

original EQ devs designed the game so that grouping was necessary.

in other words... shit's fucking classic

[Breeziyo]

Originally Posted by Rayzor84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks with normal gear can't even solo at my level well enough to make it better than grouping.

this just in: the world is as it should be

[falendar]

Originally Posted by Macha [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This affected all melee classes, correct? Or is was the nerf only applied to Monks?
It would seem this nerfs rogues just as much no?

a large portion of rogue dmg is from bs, not reg attacks, so no this would affect rog very little.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by falendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a large portion of rogue dmg is from bs, not reg attacks, so no this would affect rog very little.

If a rogue is double backstabbing for 500+500 (ish) each time, maybe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[falendar]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a rogue is double backstabbing for 500+500 (ish) each time, maybe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even without it max bsing, it is still a large part of their dps.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by falendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even without it max bsing, it is still a large part of their dps.

Not even close to true

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by falendar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a large portion of rogue dmg is from bs, not reg attacks, so no this would affect rog very little.

Backstab accounts for about 35-40% of a L60 rogue's DPS. Main hand is ~40% and offhand is about 20%. Numbers pulled from memory of ALOT of pre-patch parses.If you think a nerf to 60% of my damage is very little, yeah... Not excited to see the new numbers.

However, I do think I read that mobs are more dangerous now? That's fantastic. I loved getting destroyed when I played bad on live. Rogues were mainly fun to play because of that risk.

PS: I think double backstab is tied to double attack as well, so it might be impacting rogue damage across the board.

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Backstab accounts for about 35-40% of a L60 rogue's DPS. Main hand is ~40% and offhand is about 20%. Numbers pulled from memory of ALOT of pre-patch parses.If you think a nerf to 60% of my damage is very little, yeah... Not excited to see the new numbers.

However, I do think I read that mobs are more dangerous now? That's fantastic. I loved getting destroyed when I played bad on live. Rogues were mainly fun to play because of that risk.

PS: I think double backstab is tied to double attack as well, so it might be impacting rogue damage across the board.

I think you are overestimating backstab a bit but not much. I don't know why people think that the majority of rogue damage comes from backstab. Velious weapons increase rogue dps a huge ammount and are still capped at 15damage.

[Elf_scout]

This is a thread about monks, but I play a 40 SK and it seems to me that I dish out less melee damage than I used to. I don't have parses now/before patch to compare, so this could just be my imagination, therefore I have to ask have other SK's noticed this as well?