So monks got nerfed overall then.

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

....the tears are ridiculous

[Cecily]

Also, dps monks:

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[Cecily]

Here's an old plane of sky clear over the course of 135 mobs.

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%: 41 pierce, 34 backstab, 25 slash.

It's helpful to think of rogues as warriors with a nice kick button. Warriors actually do very good damage. It'd just that Backstab is a moderate sum of extra damage piled on to what a warrior could do. Main / offhand ratios are where most of our damage comes from, by far.

[hammertime7795]

Yeah you were saying 35-40. I think its more like 33-37. Just a bit lower than you were saying. I raided as a rogue from classic to TSS and backstab was always around 1/3 of overall dps at the start. Some xpacs it was a bit higher some lower. SOV its a lower % but rogues overall dps was probably the highest compared to other classes of any xpac. Rogues are king dps in velious by far. Or were back in the day anyway.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by hammertime7795 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

highest compared to other classes of any xpac. Rogues are king dps in velious by far. Or were back in the day anyway.

I think a charmed Enchanter pet may make you think twice about your statement. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Or even a Mage epic pet also. I have seen Mage pets in KC and Seb soloing a add in a group and killing it quicker or as fast as the rest of the group on the original mob.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a charmed Enchanter pet may make you think twice about your statement. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Or even a Mage epic pet also. I have seen Mage pets in KC and Seb soloing a add in a group and killing it quicker or as fast as the rest of the group on the original mob.

It depends on the encounter, but I'm pretty sure my wizard was able to top the DPS lists on some fights in velious as well, particularly in ToV with dragonbane and belly casters.

[squarez]

I would love to see new parses on weapons for monks and an update to: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwL...JtaGVsanM/edit

I honestly feel like the epic/SoS combo is not very strong now, I've noticed keeping both hands empty being an increased amount of dps in terms of times between breaks in killing mobs. Might just be getting lucky though...

[Daldaen]

Some fights have ridiculous AC but minimal resists.

Statue in Kael for example. Once you get a full work up of Debuffs on him, casters can land nukes for full. Melee have average hits between 10-30 due to his huge AC which isn't nearly as debuff able as caster resists.

WizardQuest is imminent friends, I hope your guild Chardoks enough up before Winter arrives.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some fights have ridiculous AC but minimal resists.

Statue in Kael for example. Once you get a full work up of Debuffs on him, casters can land nukes for full. Melee have average hits between 10-30 due to his huge AC which isn't nearly as debuff able as caster resists.

WizardQuest is imminent friends, I hope your guild Chardoks enough up before Winter arrives.

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[Jimjam]

Are off hand procs more desirable now?

I know the proc check can succeed for the off hand even when the dual wield check fails.

On the subject of that, is this intended? When my toons get dual wield I normally put a proc weapon in the off hand because for the first few dozen skill points it seems you are more likely to proc with the off hand than actually swing with it!