"wow raiding is takes alot more skill than eq" - SamwiseRed

[Krycek]

If you're just comparing classic EQ boss encounters to WoW ones, then yeah WoW is more difficult. Some of the more current EQ raids on live are quite difficult though, some of the last ones I did were a few years ago in VoA. Raids like Resplendant Temple are pretty comparable to WoW raids imo.

[ctre]

Well actually.
wow encounters are just different.. as they are harder in some cases..
however Technically they are similar from that standpoint.
if you were to value raid encounters only wow vs eq.. then wow will have more..(just by the number of encounters only).
if you put value of an encounter from the release of a new pac. you have more factors to consider..
time
gear
number of players
skill
realism
If i put all those factors into account. Eq is better by far.

As for PVP
I consider the PVP in wow as great.. and EQ great as well.
however PVP in wow is not the same as EQ..
If you did PVP with the 2 best of wow vs eq.. (( then we will find it very difficult to come up with any real figures as each pvp event is run in each world.


So at the end of the day, each system is different and subject to the opinion/like of each player.. and hence this means that this debate is moot.

[katrik]

Agree w/Samwise, and what Secrets said. EQ is timesink based.

[Raev]

of course EQ raiding is easy

all the encounters are the same. Train away, sneak tag, mallet, CH chain, turn off autoattack for enrage, push to interrupt gate, whine over loot.

[Niedar]

WoW takes more skill this should not even be controversial

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Niedar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW takes more skill this should not even be controversial

[toolshed]

EQ raiding has changed so much since the original game that I think it matters what expansion you choose to compare WoW to. Sure, the original game and first expansions had incredibly linear raid encounters, but especially with PoP and encounters like The Rathe Council - that shit took a lot of time to figure out and had a tremendous learning curve.

I only played WoW up to The Burning Crusade and never encountered a very 'hard' raid encounter like The Rathe Council in EQ.

[Psionide]

Ok Ok WOW has harder raiding.........games still trash.

[Atamen]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ raiding has changed so much since the original game that I think it matters what expansion you choose to compare WoW to. Sure, the original game and first expansions had incredibly linear raid encounters, but especially with PoP and encounters like The Rathe Council - that shit took a lot of time to figure out and had a tremendous learning curve.

I only played WoW up to The Burning Crusade and never encountered a very 'hard' raid encounter like The Rathe Council in EQ.

Rathe Council was grueling. The sheer amount of focus it took everyone in the raid to exert for the 2 hours it took to setup the encounter was incredible.

All it took was 1 missed heal on the groups tanking the non mezzables or one enchanter or bard getting a badly timed mez resist and it was game over, total wipe and the encounter blown until it popped back up a week later or whatever it was.

In fact, 3 out of the 4 elemental plane bosses in POP were highly stressful due to the stakes, and the uniqueness of the encounters.

There are some aspects of wow raiding that make it difficult, but for my money nothing compares to some of those raids in PoP and later expansions. They were just cruel.

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by Atamen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rathe Council was grueling. The sheer amount of focus it took everyone in the raid to exert for the 2 hours it took to setup the encounter was incredible.

All it took was 1 missed heal on the groups tanking the non mezzables or one enchanter or bard getting a badly timed mez resist and it was game over, total wipe and the encounter blown until it popped back up a week later or whatever it was.

In fact, 3 out of the 4 elemental plane bosses in POP were highly stressful due to the stakes, and the uniqueness of the encounters.

There are some aspects of wow raiding that make it difficult, but for my money nothing compares to some of those raids in PoP and later expansions. They were just cruel.

Glad someone else that was playing EQ at the highest level could come in and comment.

I've played both with high end guilds and PoP is my favorite raiding expansion of all time. Nothing compares to PoTime in its prime