Late game Min/maxing class race list

[iruinedyourday]

Lmao

[Daldaen]

All that's worth noting here is gnomes and Halflings are never the best race for anyone to play ever.

Should just remove those races from game.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All that's worth noting here is gnomes and Halflings are never the best race for anyone to play ever.

Should just remove those races from game.

[Manticmuse]

no one cares what race u are once the mob is slowed. that is not the issue, though defenders of non ogre shamans frequently cite slowed mobs as being no big deal. the hard part is getting the high mr, unrootable mob slowed in the first place. and for that, i dont care how you talk about perfect timing and pen and paper results, there are things that can screw that up, and waiting to time your casts around bash WILL add toward the total amount of melee rounds you take in doing so. if you die because of 6 straight slow resists and the ogre lives on the 7th cast, then guess what, that is a min/max advantage. so just deal with it. no one is saying you made a wrong choice, but for that rare situation that might not be so rare come velious, yes it is better!

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Manticmuse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one cares what race u are once the mob is slowed. that is not the issue, though defenders of non ogre shamans frequently cite slowed mobs as being no big deal. the hard part is getting the high mr, unrootable mob slowed in the first place. and for that, i dont care how you talk about perfect timing and pen and paper results, there are things that can screw that up, and waiting to time your casts around bash WILL add toward the total amount of melee rounds you take in doing so. if you die because of 6 straight slow resists and the ogre lives on the 7th cast, then guess what, that is a min/max advantage. so just deal with it. no one is saying you made a wrong choice, but for that rare situation that might not be so rare come velious, yes it is better!

Name a single high MR non-rootable non-kitable mob a shaman will be soloing either now or in Velious. Hint: there are none.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Manticmuse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one cares what race u are once the mob is slowed. that is not the issue, though defenders of non ogre shamans frequently cite slowed mobs as being no big deal. the hard part is getting the high mr, unrootable mob slowed in the first place. and for that, i dont care how you talk about perfect timing and pen and paper results, there are things that can screw that up, and waiting to time your casts around bash WILL add toward the total amount of melee rounds you take in doing so. if you die because of 6 straight slow resists and the ogre lives on the 7th cast, then guess what, that is a min/max advantage. so just deal with it. no one is saying you made a wrong choice, but for that rare situation that might not be so rare come velious, yes it is better!

Hey finally a person that gets it on this thread [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I guess a LOT of people have forgot what it is like to play Velious. Tons more resists on mobs, lot more unslowable, a lot more mobs summon in Velious etc, etc. Fights last for lots of minutes, not just seconds like now.

So that makes frontal stun immunity a lot bigger of a deal, I don't care what class you are that has the option of being a Ogre, make it one. As a person that plays mostly healer classes that extra no damage adds up in a 3 or 4 hour group. One one will ever exceed the HP that a Complete heal can do even in Velious with BiS items. So it just will make my job a little easier, and hell maybe I can even get up and loot something instead of having to sit on my ass all the time medding with a Gnome as the tank. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] YMMV.

[Stonecrush]

Cleric - Gnome.
Best racial Trade Skill come Velious. Able to wear robes, able to wear Brell armor...
Goggles?
Not a lot of downsides.

Shamans - I like Ogre shamans, played one on Live with my trio.
Honestly any race gets the job done solo.

Necromancers - Iksar. Fear is originated from Cazic Thule, oh and that regen is nice. Unless you're a root rotter.

Magician - Gnome

Warrior - I went Ogre back in 04. He looks mean and Rallos did make the Ogres.

Rogues - insert any race, one size fits all.

Monks - Iksar unless you want to be a human, wait you are one already. Go take some Taekwondo classes.

Druids - Play whatever, it doesn't matter. (if you roll human, try LARPing. They did it in a movie and it looked cool.)

Paladins - Dwarf. Maybe an Erudite to break the trend.

SK - Ogre but remember CazicThule is calling.

Bard - Let someone else swarm the OverThere. Half Elf?

Rangers - Someone has to buff the rogues. Maybe a elf of some kind. (Legolas in some other strange fashion.) Don't be a human, don't be that guy.
Lots of Dirt naps.

That's all for now.

[pharmakos]

there's a strong case to be made for Halfling Warriors. crazy high DEX, the ability to sneak pull, and the ability to hide? why did i go barb again?

[radditsu]

SK: Doesn't Matter
Pally: Doesn't Matter
Warrior: Doesn't Matter
Bard: Doesn't Matter
Rogue: Doesn't Matter
Monk: Doesn't Matter
Shaman: Doesn't Matter
Wizard: Doesn't Matter
Magician: Doesn't Matter
Enchanter: Doesn't Matter
Ranger: Doesn't Matter
Druid: Doesn't Matter
Necro: Doesn't Matter
Cleric: Doesn't Matter



your welcome

[Stonecrush]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SK: Doesn't Matter
Pally: Doesn't Matter
Warrior: Doesn't Matter
Bard: Doesn't Matter
Rogue: Doesn't Matter
Monk: Doesn't Matter
Shaman: Doesn't Matter
Wizard: Doesn't Matter
Magician: Doesn't Matter
Enchanter: Doesn't Matter
Ranger: Doesn't Matter
Druid: Doesn't Matter
Necro: Doesn't Matter
Cleric: Doesn't Matter



you're welcome

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