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[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red99 group XP is seriously insane. It's so strong that you don't normally pvp people at your same level because you would rather group with them than be hostile.

This is a pvp server, right?

[Daldaen]

So your selling point on red is:

You will level faster (not classic), and due to this faster group leveling (again not classic), you won't PvP at all. You have to avoid certain zones (some of the most iconic dungeons) because twinked PKers and their level 60 healer friends will run you off.

So you're encouraging them to come over, not PvP, just because of faster leveling. Oh and by the way you can't enjoy certain zones leveling up because of neckbeards.

I dunno, on blue stuff generally is localized and drama isn't aired in public channels. On red though, you see all sorts of racial and homophobic slurs in general channels.

It's pretty clear why red population has and always will be terrible. Even with the high end game being the way it is on this server. It's vastly superior to a PvP server with broken exp, item loot, item recharging, OOC and all sorts of other things.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So your selling point on red is:

You will level faster (not classic), and due to this faster group leveling (again not classic), you won't PvP at all.
You're not really having to worry too much about being attacked everywhere you go. It will happen, but not much. Letting you get established on the server. The real PvP begins at 56
You have to avoid certain zones (some of the most iconic dungeons) because twinked PKers and their level 60 healer friends will run you off.
Not really... the twinked PKers aren't ever around for very long. I've had a couple groups disrupted but it's not like the zone is unusable for hours at a time. It's usually like a 20 minute disruption

So you're encouraging them to come over, not PvP, just because of faster leveling. Oh and by the way you can't enjoy certain zones leveling up because of neckbeards.
Encouraging you to come over and see that it's not as bad as people say. You spit out a bunch of vitriol over something you've not actually experienced. I used to be as much of a red hater as anyone and then I gave it a try.

I dunno, on blue stuff generally is localized and drama isn't aired in public channels. On red though, you see all sorts of racial and homophobic slurs in general channels.
/OOC is half the fun of Red, to be honest. Derupal and Sirkdawg have been cracking down and handing out suspensions for people crapping up the channel.

It's pretty clear why red population has and always will be terrible. Even with the high end game being the way it is on this server. It's vastly superior to a PvP server with broken exp, item loot, item recharging, OOC and all sorts of other things.
Ultimately, open world PvP does not appeal to as wide of a base. Some people can't handle the pressure, but it's a shame that people like you go all sperglord over threads that are no different than the hourly 'What race/class should I play?' 'Where is a good place to farm?' ect.. threads

Edit: Ya know what drove me to red? Literally 4 weeks camping Staff of the Dreaded Gaze, just to have some ogre shaman get one because they already held the camp when I logged in that morning.

[toolshed]

1. The red server isn't trying to be a classic emulation server

2. People on blue try to xp as fast as possible - not inviting classes to groups so they can exp 0.3% faster? people buying plvls?

3. I am saying that you can choose to pvp or not usually. The amount of twink PKs is very small and you can avoid them if you want. This is response to the claim that on red you are going to be spending most of your time on a corpse run (even if you get PKed, there is a LNS policy)

4. Not only am I saying that you can XP faster, group lvl faster, and choose to PVP, but all the item camps you are looking for are probably open as well. JBoots? 6-7k on blue99 and 3k on red99. Why? AC is up all the time. The market on red is driven by the buyer and not some RMT camper

5. I would rather pvp for 5 minutes and LNS for another 5 min than wait in line for 5-6 hours and then not even get the camp that I was waiting for because some higher lvl guildie of the original camper decided to cut me in line. Crazy, I know.

6. The red99 population is low because there is a lot of trolling on the forums from 1% of the red99 population. This causes people to think that the entire server is like that, but it really isn't. Sure OOC is very trolly, but you can separate it out in chat and minimize the channel.

7. In my leveling on red, I have found that there is a far larger portion of the population that is willing to help you out and be kind than on blue99. While leveling up right now on blue, a majority of the population is going to be a dick twink. Sorry but it's true.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. The red server isn't trying to be a classic emulation server

Sorry but it's true.

That is all I needed to know. Thus why no one is interested :/.

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[toolshed]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is all I needed to know. Thus why no one is interested :/.

I was born and raised on a pvp server, so pvp is an integral part of the classic experience for me.

Maybe that's why I have an affinity for solving disputes through pvp rather than lawyering, fraps 100% of the time and treaties that are as long as the Marshall plan after WWII.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe that's why I have an affinity for solving disputes through pvp rather than lawyering, fraps 100% of the time and treaties that are as long as the Marshall plan after WWII.

The man makes a great and vaild point

[Jaxon]

Lawyering and negotiation takes far greater skill than PVP and is far more rewarding. I can understand why some of you would be intimidated by it.

[Tuljin]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lawyering and negotiation takes far greater skill than PVP and is far more rewarding. I can understand why some of you would be intimidated by it.

Huh?

To me its sad that guilds have to dedicate incredible amounts of manhours to negotiate and navigate the labyrinthian raid rotation policy instead of playing the damn game (though it is way better than the 2 year TMO monopoly - then again with PvP that wouldn't have even happened)

More skill to negotiate than stay alive in PvP? Absolutely not. More rewarding to sit in a 7 hour VOIP meeting with man-children? Not rewarding at all

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Jaxon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lawyering and negotiation...

Live servers weren't open to lawyering tho (in the spirit of saying red isn't classic etc)

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