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The server would have little to no influx of new players. Even with the ability to move log off rotation99, you would have almost no new blood. Class C guilds have high turnover rate. All hardcore guilds do. But these do especially since you ask people to regularly wake up at 4AM to kill Maestro. Eventually enough would leave so that they cannot field a force to kill things, specifically come Velious. Their guilds would wither and die, then they will quit outright or some that can't let go will return to rotation 99. End result, rotation backed server, hardcore neckbeards gone or forced to conform with rotation. Failure to conform would result in banning since GM backed rotation. Less petition quest, more players participate in an active raid scene, no more FTE battles (maybe a few little skirmishes on Repops), no more tracking for 16 hours (I guess unless you REALLY want Vaniki), minimal batphones (just for repops), scheduled raid times so that you can wait to kill your rotation dragon at 7PM when your members are on even if he spawned at 4 AM.
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Don't forget a 30-40 guild rotation! Set your calendars!
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Guilds that want to team up would share a single slot. Currently rotations are between 6-10 slots. I don't see that changing much. Come Velious, they will likely be 6~ on the low end stuff. Higher end stuff will yield lots more alliances, maybe 3-4 rotation slots with each slot filled by a 2-3 guild alliance. Hell stuff like AoW may go down to Class R first if there is a full R alliance to take him down. That would be pretty incredible IMO. That level of cooperation has never been seen on this server. Would be a nice change.
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View Poll Results: Mage Tracking Only at Trakanon?
Yes 0 0% No 0 0% Voters: 0. You may not vote on this poll Reply Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes #1 Old 11-09-2014, 12:22 AM Sirken Sirken is offline Server GM Sirken's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,642 Default Mage Tracking - Only Allowed at Trak? should mage tracking only be allowed at trakanon? vote yes for mages only at trak vote no for mages every where (current system) thank you. __________________ Indignation, Mage Tracking, Velious Nerfs - http://youtu.be/vls_WpwFoKE Sirken's Live Stream! www.twitch.tv/sirkenp99 Quote: Originally Posted by karsten View Post going after sirken is like going to a cheerleader convention and punching the only one that bothered to talk to you Quote: Originally Posted by Rogean View Post I've met Sirken IRL.. he ain't jelly of shit Quote: Originally Posted by Uthgaard View Post Accusing me of simultaneous favoritism for two opposing guilds involves a special kind of stupid Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #2 Old 11-09-2014, 01:31 AM arsenalpow arsenalpow is online now Planar Protector arsenalpow's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,356 Default Versus what, a footrace? __________________ Monk of Bregan D'Aerth Wielder of the Celestial Fists Quote: Originally Posted by Jax Teller I'm tired of being crushed under the weight of greedy men who believe in nothing. I have to change that. Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #3 Old 11-09-2014, 02:07 AM Sirken Sirken is offline Server GM Sirken's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 7,642 Default Quote: Originally Posted by arsenalpow View Post Versus what, a footrace? only allowed at Trak versus allowed everywhere __________________ Indignation, Mage Tracking, Velious Nerfs - http://youtu.be/vls_WpwFoKE Sirken's Live Stream! www.twitch.tv/sirkenp99 Quote: Originally Posted by karsten View Post going after sirken is like going to a cheerleader convention and punching the only one that bothered to talk to you Quote: Originally Posted by Rogean View Post I've met Sirken IRL.. he ain't jelly of shit Quote: Originally Posted by Uthgaard View Post Accusing me of simultaneous favoritism for two opposing guilds involves a special kind of stupid Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #4 Old 11-09-2014, 04:47 AM getsome getsome is offline Sarnak getsome's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 453 Default Can you rephrase the question? To be more specific the issue you are addressing should not be mage tracking but the use of CoTH for FTE purposes. I do not think any class should be restricted from tracking. I also would not want to see a rule that impedes the ability to use magicians and coth to move raid forces from point A to point B. Last edited by getsome; 11-09-2014 at 06:36 AM.. Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #5 Old 11-09-2014, 08:33 AM Ella`Ella Ella`Ella is offline Fire Giant Ella`Ella's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 889 Default The question is underdeveloped as it stands to call a vote on. Mages have significant utility and can be used in numerous ways besides coth ducking. As getsome said, I don't believe any class should be restricted from gameplay , at least to the extent of tracking. I would like to see the options more accurately reflect these concerns before voting. Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #6 Old 11-09-2014, 08:45 AM Pint Pint is offline Fire Giant Pint's Avatar Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 741 Default Tracker cannot be involved in fte? __________________ Pint Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #7 Old 11-09-2014, 08:51 AM -Catherin- -Catherin- is online now Fire Giant -Catherin-'s Avatar Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 937 Default I can't vote on this issue immediately because it opens other potential problems. Even though I do not like it, CoH has the benefit where it can at least be policed. The guilds have not come to an alternative raiding agreement that would be an overall improvement. And the staff won't support C/R and FFA repops. So with that in mind, unless some of those other things can be resolved I am going to remain neutral. __________________ Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #8 Old 11-09-2014, 09:32 AM Drakakade Drakakade is offline Scrawny Gnoll Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 29 Default Quote: Originally Posted by getsome View Post Can you rephrase the question? To be more specific the issue you are addressing should not be mage tracking but the use of CoTH for FTE purposes. I do not think any class should be restricted from tracking. I also would not want to see a rule that impedes the ability to use magicians and coth to move raid forces from point A to point B. __________________ Drakakade ~ Divinity Reply With Quote Multi-Quote This Message #9 Old 11-09-2014, 11:17 AM bktroost bktroost is offline Sarnak bktroost's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 277 Default Yes. __________________ {60. Magician. 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I mean another example of this is in VP on a repop. Say you want to pull Druushk and you get the Pull. A guild training up Hoshkar for their pull can run him through your pull or drop him in the path of your pull. If they pull him through your pull and the person training Hoshkar up gets low health aggro...Druushk will turn around and chase them. They could do this intentionally and fraps the movement of Druushk and claim you are kiting as a guild.
Example of what Layze last night for IB did. He dropped Hoshkar in a place he wouldn't normally be. PD hallway. This caused Hoshkar to walk out of PD's hallway right into an incoming pull of Druushk and forced us to have to send a person all the way up there and stop it from happening. [Tue Nov 11 21:30:36 2014] Hoshkar engages Layze! [Tue Nov 11 21:36:44 2014] Druushk engages Merkk! [Tue Nov 11 21:36:51 2014] Layze shouts, 'HOSHKAR DROPPED' [Tue Nov 11 21:37:08 2014] Kingore shouts, 'where did you drop him' [Tue Nov 11 21:37:16 2014] Kingore shouts, 'oh. on our pull.' [Tue Nov 11 21:37:18 2014] Layze shouts, 'PD area' On Top of that off of one FTE message Layze of IB kept Hoshkar kited by his own admission for over 6 minutes with no intent to pull him to zone in and kill him. After they caused this problem they tried to rules lawyer because we had to handle the problem they caused. [Tue Nov 11 21:39:13 2014] Hokushin shouts, 'Permission to tag Druushk out of the kite and IB kill him' You didn't see us petition or cry foul. We handled it and killed our pull.
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