Can someone accurately explain GameGate in a sentence?

[paulgiamatti]

All the extrapolated data revolving around Twitter discourse in the world doesn't change the fact that misogyny and the exclusion of women is a problem in video games and the video game industry.

The way in which people tweet at each other has absolutely nothing to say about the objectivity of the situation we're in. All that image demonstrates is that there are far more people discussing GamerGate, which I'm sure you can very easily prove a ton of which are not "pro"-GamerGaters, than there are speaking out against it.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a ton of which I'm sure you can very easily prove are not "pro"-GamerGaters

Fixed for comprehensibility.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All the extrapolated data revolving around Twitter discourse in the world doesn't change the fact that misogyny and the exclusion of women is a problem in video games and the video game industry.

What percentage of video games includes this overt misogyny?

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What percentage of video games includes this overt misogyny?

A better question would be, what is the male-to-female ratio of people employed in the video game industry?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A better question would be, what is the male-to-female ratio of people employed in the video game industry?

Ok. What is it?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A better question would be, what is the male-to-female ratio of people employed in the video game industry?

Whats the ratio of male to female nurses? Its a societal bias not a gamer/ industrial one. Teehee male nurse. Teehee science girl geek. Watch any Disney sitcom for that reductive shit.

Women need to be pushed into harder sciences and developed and nurtured. Lord knows i push my daughter that way.

Also the ivory tower liberal was a shot at WU. Obviously not all 3rd edition feminists are rich. Although it is a bit more palatable for some dad to pay for a social science degree at a lib art school if hes loaded

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What percentage of video games includes this overt misogyny?

its not so much wiether they are portrated poorly in 1 game vs 10 games.. its that in the vast majority of story driven games, they are portrayed poorly.

If you dont agree, you simply dont play video games... or just dont understand the issue at all.

I think this video is worth watching from start to finish, there is no reason to disagree with it becuse if you disagree with it you just simply do not understand the issue, once again.

The questions Anita Sarkeesian raises about games and the stories behind them are valid and challange game developers to make games better.

Im a man and I dont like the bullshit way women are portrate din games, becuse its just totally unbelievable (as in its not even close to reality) and it makes me look at a game as a play toy for a stupid kid or retard.. I want to play games that take shit seroiusly, putting a 36DD chick in a g string and ploppin gher down in the front of a midevil army is just stupid. If you disagree, you're stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i_RPr9DwMA

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Games should be better than this for fucks sake, its been like 30 years..

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its not so much wiether they are portrated poorly in 1 game vs 10 games.. its that in the vast majority of story driven games, they are portrayed poorly.

If you dont agree, you simply dont play video games... or just dont understand the issue at all.

I think this video is worth watching from start to finish, there is no reason to disagree with it becuse if you disagree with it you just simply do not understand the issue, once again.

The questions Anita Sarkeesian raises about games and the stories behind them are valid and challange game developers to make games better.

Im a man and I dont like the bullshit way women are portrate din games, becuse its just totally unbelievable (as in its not even close to reality) and it makes me look at a game as a play toy for a stupid kid or retard.. I want to play games that take shit seroiusly, putting a 36DD chick in a g string and ploppin gher down in the front of a midevil army is just stupid. If you disagree, you're stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i_RPr9DwMA

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Games should be better than this for fucks sake, its been like 30 years..

You're right, I don't play video games very much. I'm a grown up. And as such I realize that the portrayal of anything in video games is unrealistic. That's kind of the point of video games. Am I to assume that all the musclebound butt kicking male protagonists are a reflection of the current male culture?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, I don't play video games very much. I'm a grown up. And as such I realize that the portrayal of anything in video games is unrealistic. That's kind of the point of video games. Am I to assume that all the musclebound butt kicking male protagonists are a reflection of the current male culture?

thats like saying the point of movies is to be unrealistic.

The point of video games are to be video games.. if you arnt bothered by naked chicks fighting dragons, then you arnt going to be bothered by normal chicks fighting dragons..

hell as an adult, you may even play more games in that case.

Anita challenges game devs, that doesn't mean she is god and creating rules that say games have to be one way.. she calls people out for being dipshits.

and there are a lot of dipshits in the video game industry... especially big budget AAA games, which are her primary targets...

Arguing that games that take women seriously because they are trying to tell a real interactive story, are not better than a game that is trying to tell an interactive story about men saving chicks in bikini's is like saying that 2001 isnt a better film than You've got Mail...

And if the film industry agree's that 2001 is a better flim than Grownups 2, doesn't mean that people arnt going to make Grownups 2.. if you like that shit, someones going to make it.

Anita just wants the AAA games to be looked at more critically. Because she, like many other gamers, wants better games.

As far as gamergate goes, by simply reading the posts of the people here who support it, you can see that they make up their entire argument form start to finish, with accusations about what gamergate is, by just making up their own news stories - like X spelt with Y for good reviews, even when it never happened.

the gamergate movment is 100% delusional children.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What percentage of video games includes this overt misogyny?

While I won't touch that, I do think it's fair to admit that the video game world isn't for women. How many games have female lead characters that aren't just Laura Croft-esque sex symbols? Or heck, even if you include the pure sex symbols, how many games have lead female characters? Only a small percentage right?

I'm not saying every video game hates women, but it's hard to deny that girls learn at an early age that the video game world isn't for for them. Personally I think that's kind of sad, and at least some of the feminist critics of the video game industry are just making that point.

Of course there are the crazies that argue video games = hatred of women, but then there are crazies everywhere (just look at these forums).