Stop the Socking

[Korben]

I have to admit the argument for short windows as Dald said is pretty strong.

Folks will still sock until the end of time, so why not make it so that it's not a full time job with shifts. 60 minute variance in 2015!

[Whirled]

Icwydt^
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I'll try to keep the positive flow going and hope for the best for all things.

[Nirgon]

Play red

There is NO WAY pvp is worse than this if you give it a chance

I personally couldn't take it anymore

[Korben]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Play red

There is NO WAY pvp is worse than this if you give it a chance

I personally couldn't take it anymore

Good point, thread closed?

[Clark]

Why don't we try some rules they did on live? We're at the point where you guys just keep lapping on rule after rule after freaking rule. Screwing up the classic sandbox experience.

Myself, and nearly all the longtime players never envisioned a slew of ridiculous rules when we started back in 2009-2011. I'm sure the new players don't think it's good either. There are tons of rules and limitations in new MMO's these days. Why are terrible new concepts being incorporated into something that is supposed to bring about a classic feel.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why don't we try some rules they did on live? We're at the point where you guys just keep lapping on rule after rule after freaking rule. Screwing up the classic sandbox experience.

Server ain't classic. Kunark on most servers had maybe 3 guilds max that could even kill Trak, maybe 2 max that could tackle VP content before velious came out. Realistically we have about 10-12 guilds that can kill almost anything on the server currently. All the strats are now widely available, there's no mystery. Shit ain't classic so stop using that as a point to change things. If anything the non classic nature of the server demands non classic answers.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit ain't classic so stop using that as a point to change things. If anything the non classic nature of the server demands non classic answers.

If there ever was such a time where agree to disagree was needed to be used in the universe now is the time. I don't understand why you have to bring your crummy different mmo EZ server mentality over here and customize everything you can possibly get your complaining hands on man.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server ain't classic. Kunark on most servers had maybe 3 guilds max that could even kill Trak, maybe 2 max that could tackle VP content before velious came out. Realistically we have about 10-12 guilds that can kill almost anything on the server currently. All the strats are now widely available, there's no mystery. Shit ain't classic so stop using that as a point to change things. If anything the non classic nature of the server demands non classic answers.

This. The rules are necessary because without them the server would devolve into extremely unclassic behavior. No one sat on VSes spawn for 96 hours. But you can bet P99ers will in the hardcore guilds.

Raev is correct a Class C/R rotations with repops being FFA would likely keep the same distribution of mobs by class, would remove the tracking/FTEing/CotHing nonsense since the repops would be unannounced. But that solution appears to be off the table.

[Lazie]

1. Make it all foot races. All the Foot racers have to start from the same position. You can see who is there. Only 2 Foot racers per guild with 1 tracker tracking in zone. The tracker can't be a mage. Set Designated starting points where they have to start from. This can literally be anywhere in a zone these mobs spawn. Just make the starting point a resolute spot that if you are not at it when the mob spawns you can't pull the mob.

2. Shorten the variance to -/+ 4 so smaller guilds can dedicate the players they have to it more readily.

That's all you need.

Edit: The part I bolded.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Make it all foot races. All the Foot racers have to start from the same position. You can see who is there. Only 2 Foot racers per guild with 1 tracker tracking in zone. The tracker can't be a mage. Set Designated starting points where they have to start from. This can literally be anywhere in a zone these mobs spawn. Just make the starting point a resolute spot that if you are not at it when the mob spawns you can't pull the mob.

2. Shorten the variance to -/+ 4 so smaller guilds can dedicate the players they have to it more readily.

That's all you need.

Edit: The part I bolded.

2 foot racers and 1 tracker in zone period, no others? I could get behind that. If there are specific areas that are agreed upon.

What about Trakanon, does he receive an exemption? If so, what is it? Will said exemption prevent the current poopsock he currently invokes?