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Old 10-22-2014, 12:25 PM
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this is the exact statement that makes shit shitty, just because its legal doesn't mean its right, in the middle east its legal to marry 8 year olds. Does that make it cool?

This is a huge problem within azrael, the mentality of its not against the rules.

The rules serves as a guideline and you should always lean further into the rule that stated using empathy and not aim to be a cock sucker.
Having villains is important for a mmorpg. It is actually good having people that do scummy things within the rules as long as they aren't exploiting or finding loop holes to cheat.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:33 PM
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this is the exact statement that makes shit shitty, just because its legal doesn't mean its right, in the middle east its legal to marry 8 year olds. Does that make it cool?
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:14 PM
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Things I remain unsure about:

1. why the respectable community members have to suffer because of the shit bags.
2. why there aren't more in game punishments for behavior on boards
3. why the staff does not name and shame people who do things like this, you're using a VERY broad stroke labeling the community
4. why ban decisions would have to go through anyone other than Sirken/Derubael
5. why Sirken/Derubael can't immediately ban people who treat the volunteer staff poorly or do not listen to their directions. I remember the open defiance of Nizzar when he was told to move his bind from permafrost, why the hell should telling you guys no even cross his mind? Players should be scared shitless of doing something like this. Clearly some kind of precedent was set that this kind of thing was something you could get away with(??!?!?!).

I'm not bolding "why" to be condescending. I'm not bolding "why" to sharpen my tone or the words used. I'm doing it to point out that I'm aware of the fact that these things are currently the case but the reasons behind them are still unclear and the situation does not make sense that respectable, dedicated and knowledgeable VOLUNTEER staff members should have to take any kind of shit from people whatsoever.

Currently you have a system where people can brow beat or otherwise grief the staff off the server and then respectable players in the community afterwards. How the heck is that a working system? What is in the way of revising that? Really if you think of it, the staff and community end up being at the mercy of extremely toxic individuals instead of the staff. I know that's not what the GMs/guides I've talked to want and I know for certain that's not how it worked when I played on live. Instead of blaming you which some people will do as a knee jerk reaction (and because GM is right over your name on the boards and we look to you for help), please point us to the door to go pound on so we can ask them to stop tying your hands.

You know I'm in your corner (Sirk/Deru) and have always stood for a fairly enforced and classic server. I would hope the rest of the community reads something like "people are treating the guides like shit and they leave" and come forth with nothing less than outrage against the people causing it. Honestly, who would be against suspensions then bans for people who mistreat the staff?

PS: There is no way that you'd rather deal with class R/class C and who had what class where in the zone and the rule lawyering/LIES that go along with it over... anything else.
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Old 10-22-2014, 02:11 PM
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Things I remain unsure about:

1. why the respectable community members have to suffer because of the shit bags.
2. why there aren't more in game punishments for behavior on boards
3. why the staff does not name and shame people who do things like this, you're using a VERY broad stroke labeling the community
4. why ban decisions would have to go through anyone other than Sirken/Derubael
5. why Sirken/Derubael can't immediately ban people who treat the volunteer staff poorly or do not listen to their directions. I remember the open defiance of Nizzar when he was told to move his bind from permafrost, why the hell should telling you guys no even cross his mind? Players should be scared shitless of doing something like this. Clearly some kind of precedent was set that this kind of thing was something you could get away with(??!?!?!).

I'm not bolding "why" to be condescending. I'm not bolding "why" to sharpen my tone or the words used. I'm doing it to point out that I'm aware of the fact that these things are currently the case but the reasons behind them are still unclear and the situation does not make sense that respectable, dedicated and knowledgeable VOLUNTEER staff members should have to take any kind of shit from people whatsoever.

Currently you have a system where people can brow beat or otherwise grief the staff off the server and then respectable players in the community afterwards. How the heck is that a working system? What is in the way of revising that? Really if you think of it, the staff and community end up being at the mercy of extremely toxic individuals instead of the staff. I know that's not what the GMs/guides I've talked to want and I know for certain that's not how it worked when I played on live. Instead of blaming you which some people will do as a knee jerk reaction (and because GM is right over your name on the boards and we look to you for help), please point us to the door to go pound on so we can ask them to stop tying your hands.

You know I'm in your corner (Sirk/Deru) and have always stood for a fairly enforced and classic server. I would hope the rest of the community reads something like "people are treating the guides like shit and they leave" and come forth with nothing less than outrage against the people causing it. Honestly, who would be against suspensions then bans for people who mistreat the staff?

PS: There is no way that you'd rather deal with class R/class C and who had what class where in the zone and the rule lawyering/LIES that go along with it over... anything else.
Well put.

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Old 10-22-2014, 12:16 PM
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makes me wounder if any of you clowns have played on a pvp server before coming here. crying about things that are basically pvp-server foundations. training and breaking actual rules are one thing, but QQing about twink pvp? get real.
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:18 PM
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RZ was basically a blue server not sherrif srs
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:27 PM
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the server has been gimped to a 4 level pvp range already. cry more. maybe you'd feel better if pvp was just disabled entirely?
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:32 PM
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the server has been gimped to a 4 level pvp range already. cry more. maybe you'd feel better if pvp was just disabled entirely?
Hey moran u realize level range on live is 4 right?
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Old 10-22-2014, 01:16 PM
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the server has been gimped to a 4 level pvp range already. cry more. maybe you'd feel better if pvp was just disabled entirely?
there is a place for that

its called fucking BLUE
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Old 10-22-2014, 12:33 PM
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i played on sullon zek, so go fuck yourself.
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