Catherins attempt at lawyering - Page 15

runlvlzero · #1 10-22-2014, 07:56 AM

I think this could be all solved by spawning an NPC named Carson Mccabe at each encounter and all participants would need to pay 10,000 RMT points (pp peices) to the NPC for a lotto ticket. Then he would despawn and 'a dealer' would spawn and they would each turn in their lotto tickets (each ticket would have a unique #) and the one ticket that won would dictate which guild gets to engage the merbs and there would be a despawn of 'a dealer' and then a 10 minute countdown which would allow the other guilds time to gtfotw before engaging the merbs.

Susvain2 · #2 10-22-2014, 07:56 AM

So, to recap this morning

I roflpwn Chest,
Derubael roflstomps Chest,

Chest if you come to RNF ya gonna have a bad time

Lazie · #3 10-22-2014, 08:10 AM

And as I told you guys 2 days ago when this thread started. There was never a rule that stopped non-kos mages from standing right on top of spawns. The rule was always trackers can't FTE and Pull.

khanable · #4 10-22-2014, 08:14 AM

Class R can you please stop being crybaby jerkoffs over every "what if" encounter

It would make me feel a lot better about logging into the game

Thanks

Cecily · #5 10-22-2014, 08:25 AM

Is what I was trying to say, ty.

FindCorpse · #6 10-22-2014, 08:30 AM

I wish I had 4 hands so I could give this thread 4 thumbs down. I wonder why we can't accomplish anything as a community? This hardcore VS casual arguments been going on for years sounds like some of you guys need to hug it out. Grab a snickers because there are a bunch of divas up in here. /doublefacepalm

Cecily · #7 10-22-2014, 08:37 AM

I'm *trying* to hug it out with Chest and you're sticking your rotten taken nose into it. It's not about casual vs hardcore. It's about the unchecked animosity between TMO and lesser guilds, like yours. You should really try to be nicer to us.

Fael · #8 10-22-2014, 09:16 AM

Chest, i actually appreciate the sincerety in your responses.

I suppose what I really am reacting to is the modus operandi of the raid leaders on the raid forum. All it takes is one person to make a shady accusation that is not rooted in reality... And then the rest of the community jumps in on the attack, calling for suspensions without any regard to what really happened.

That said, to some degree Catherine actually was doing a good job helping self police the raid scene by telling ib and TMO to back up out of range. She is not requires to do it, but it's necessary. This is something raid leaders do all the time, such as when guild members have been leveling past the zone line when trak and vs are in widow. Call it preventative measures. To some extent that's your job--you guys helped craft these rules, and seemingly propose new ones on a daily basis.

As I've said before, you don't have to do it. Let TMO screw up and get suspended. But what is absolutely crazy is the idea that you can take a fraps of something that occurred at the beginning of a window, something that was fixed, and then use it as a basis for a suspension after the fact, particularly when no raid interference occurred. That is a form of rule lawyering that should be frowned upon by te community and not supported with open arms.

Dolic

khanable · #9 10-22-2014, 09:29 AM

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As I've said before, you don't have to do it. Let TMO screw up and get suspended. But what is absolutely crazy is the idea that you can take a fraps of something that occurred at the beginning of a window, something that was fixed, and then use it as a basis for a suspension after the fact, particularly when no raid interference occurred. That is a form of rule lawyering that should be frowned upon by te community and not supported with open arms.

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arsenalpow · #10 10-22-2014, 09:46 AM

So I mostly agree with you Dolic but let's try this hypothetical. Let's assume TMO is on the spawnpoint and gets FTE by the usual means. They either get to keep the loot because the Mage was factioned and the staff changes the scope of their statement or it's deemed illegal and the loot is destroyed. Doesn't it behoove Catherin and Taken to police this kind of thing to make sure the loot isn't destroyed and their time isn't wasted? I'd assume the solution would be that TMO is skipped in the next FFA Sev if it were a violation but it doesn't reimburse the time spent working on that kill.

Just curious, and be honest, in let's say the past 3 months how many times have TMO and IB resolved an incident by saying "ok we'll skip the next dragon because we fucked up this time"