Faction and Necromancers - Page 3

Potus · #1 10-20-2014, 02:55 PM

I seem to recall class not playing at all into faction in early EQ. Originally Necromancers could roll agnostic, and a lot necromancers effectively had no faction penalty.

There is definitely something off about faction on P99, I can't quite figure it out, but some merchants have really wonky faction (the dwarf merchant in OOT is a great example), and I've had merchants aggro on me all the time when I fight a guard.

Uteunayr · #2 10-20-2014, 03:08 PM

The majority of end game players who are non-Iksar necromancers are primarily those that created their toons in classic, when you didn't have an Iksar option.

Erudite suffer from low stats. Low health, low vision, but really high int. Issue is, a lot of gear come Velious and even now is going to be stacked with int. Tobrin's Eyepatch, VS Gloves, Hand of the Reaper, pretty much any 10+ int main hand... There's a lot of ways to get Int, but not a lot of ways to get HP. And come Velious, the best ways to get HP will also have Int. An Erudite will hit 255 int so quickly, and all that excess int will go into the void. If they had a race with less starting int, but more health, dex for concentration checks, etc. they would get a greater benefit overall, and have the same as an Erudite (capped 255 int).

Whatley · #3 10-20-2014, 03:24 PM

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The majority of end game players who are non-Iksar necromancers are primarily those that created their toons in classic, when you didn't have an Iksar option.

Erudite suffer from low stats. Low health, low vision, but really high int. Issue is, a lot of gear come Velious and even now is going to be stacked with int. Tobrin's Eyepatch, VS Gloves, Hand of the Reaper, pretty much any 10+ int main hand... There's a lot of ways to get Int, but not a lot of ways to get HP. And come Velious, the best ways to get HP will also have Int. An Erudite will hit 255 int so quickly, and all that excess int will go into the void. If they had a race with less starting int, but more health, dex for concentration checks, etc. they would get a greater benefit overall, and have the same as an Erudite (capped 255 int).

That actually explains a lot. So on that note, my friend is a Euri mage, should they have put all starting points into Sta instead of Int?

Uteunayr · #4 10-20-2014, 04:42 PM

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That actually explains a lot. So on that note, my friend is a Euri mage, should they have put all starting points into Sta instead of Int?

I really can't say. I don't know mage items. But I am going to just guess maybe. I'd personally just go Gnome for wall seeing and tinkering. Maybe a hide race like DE for instant invis, albeit an inconsistent one.

Velerin · #5 10-20-2014, 05:17 PM

Manapool really doesn't do a whole lot for mages for leveling. Raids it could help for endurance fights. I like hp and resists for more survivability. While leveling I was pretty much continuously 20-40% mana non stop killing low blues.

webrunner5 · #6 10-21-2014, 10:03 AM

The problem with a Human or Gnome Necro is that yeah in a lot of places you can go Bank and use Venders, but in a lot of places, which it is really hard to tell where you will be KoS and the venders will not sell to you and you can't Bank there either.

If you roll a Iksar you KNOW you can't Bank or just walk up to a Vender and use them everywhere but your home city. But with Sneak, FD you can go to just about any Vender and sneak in and go to nearly every Bank. And who cares about faction. Hell you can kill anyone even Venders and who cares other than I would not do it in your home city. I found I died less on a Iksar Necro than I did on my Human one. I just was never sure what my faction was as I traveled around. I Know what it is on my Iksar. And like has been said the Re-gen is just hard to pass up at even the lowest level. It is double even then.

Elmarnieh · #7 10-21-2014, 01:39 PM

My human necro can bind at FV and stroll into the OT outpost.

Can't beat that. I go into neriak and freeport.

Can't beat that.

Potus · #8 10-21-2014, 02:00 PM

Faction is absolutely worthless. Once you free yourself of worrying you can exp in the most hilarious of places. Become KOS to everyone. It is the Necro way.

Whatley · #9 10-21-2014, 02:20 PM

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Faction is absolutely worthless. Once you free yourself of worrying you can exp in the most hilarious of places. Become KOS to everyone. It is the Necro way.

Ha I was actually thinking guards in various cities could be a fun way to level.

webrunner5 · #10 10-22-2014, 03:00 AM

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Ha I was actually thinking guards in various cities could be a fun way to level.

They are good Xp and good for plat. Most all of them have fine steel weapons at least. Just watch out for the guards at the gates or entrance to most zones. They usually have a shitpot full of HP and hit hard as hell. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] My Mage pets love to kill them. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]