Nothxu = Stripped

[HippoNipple]

Too much BS from GMs in these responses.

-Takes too long to find out what is going on... but we did already look into it long enough to know who else has logged into your character, where the items have gone and the items haven't left that place yet.

-If the items were dispersed into the community it is hard to be fair to anyone (already said items are not in use so they are not circulating, in a bank still.)

-If these items were traded to an innocent buyer that is just one extra trade. We are talking about 3-4 items here, big ticket items, they are not being traded a bunch and are easy to track.


If these items were stripped from Nothxu and sold to an innocent buyer then review what the buyer bought it for and reimburse him. It would have taken less time to do the right thing than do all these investigations and then write up long bogus responses to why you aren't going to do anything about it.

[HippoNipple]

Who stripped him is all that matters to you guys. To him that is only part of it. GMs need to get over whatever is holding them back and just do the right thing. Who knows what the real reason is for them not helping but putting that aside and helping out this guy that put in so much work into the server is the right thing to do.

If they can't find the time to help out someone like this they should just hang up their title as GM and move along. Nothing wrong with not having the time to volunteer but if you are in that position it doesn't help if you just frustrate people. As far as customer service work goes this should be at the top of the list.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Consider it cauterizing the wound. It's going to hurt but it's the right thing to do.

While this may be inconsistent with rulings in the past it could be the first step towards consistency in the future. The first person in the line to not make the cut.

Super shitty luck. If it happened to me I wouldn't be coming back but that's how it is.

/shrug

[Kergan]

I'd like to add the name and shame thing has been highly effective in the real world combating bad behavior. There is a reason you can look up things like house foreclosures, sex offenses and DWIs easily on government run websites.

[Kergan]

Yeah except it has happened a bunch of times in Azrael. Aside from that yes it is a factual statement.

[georgie]

rip

[Smedy]

I mean, i see the point of gm's not wanting to take responsibility and time to track down the thieves but what good does that do for the server? it promotes a environment where you can't trust anyone, a very hostile environment where everyone is on edge, and whats even worse it keeps the thieves and shitty people around to do it again.

I say rewrite the rule, go detective work, ban the shit out of the thieves and restore the items to the owner and then just keep doing that, eventually you'll run out of thieves and the server will be a better place, imagine if nizzar was just permabanned from project 1999 as a whole when he stripped the shit from blue? red99 would be a completely different ball game right now.

Ofcourse this would only apply to "big item theft" you can't have gm's investigating why someone stripped a lockjaw hide tunic of someones character, u dig?

tldr: gm's should reconsider their policy for big item theft and find & ban the thieves

[Silent]

The main thing about this is what smedy and others said is 100% right, these are 'big items' not just in game plat wise. But if stolen for RMT they are HUNDREDS of dollars if not more most likely. Everyone understands that after gear has entered and changed hands through multiple transactions its impossible to get it all back and have everyone satisified and restored, but just the fact of a tstaff and an aon alone. a tstaff is probably 200-300k plat min, an AoN is somewhere in the 500k+ to priceless range if you even find one for sale? Someone who is stealing this shit isn't going to keep it and use it because if they get caught they lose out so its easier for them to RMT it or sell for plat and RMT/trade it to blue plat and RMT there.

Small items, not really a big deal. High priority valuable droppables like these? Yes I too think should be re considered on or at least talked about in open forum by the staff more. I can see where this for one leads a player who has invested a lot of time into the game to quitting for good because wtf wants to restart again after losing that type of gear? and it breeds more people who are going to do this, knowing GM's won't take action.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Silent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The main thing about this is what smedy and others said is 100% right, these are 'big items' not just in game plat wise. But if stolen for RMT they are HUNDREDS of dollars if not more most likely.

Like I posted before, I had a 500pp and a 12k item ninjaed in group.

GM intervention nah.

Hard to stay classy when confronted with that shit as a newb.

I wonder what they DO spend time on. Besides driving their lambo's ofc.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

What if the GMs stripped you just to instill a sense of distrust in the community as a way of curbing account sharing???