Demand the Truth

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by FoxxHound [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I still don't get the whole illumanati thing.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(comics)



They shot hulk into space.

[FoxxHound]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(comics)



They shot hulk into space.

Well that's not very polite. Is it?

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by FoxxHound [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well that's not very polite. Is it?

He got mad and went to a Planet and made the best Hulk book in the last few decades, fucked a bitch and made a son...who died(then got better). He then went back to earth, took over new york and made those assholes fight each other gladiator style until the Sentry went super sayian and they punched each other until their powers died.


Then Hercules took his book over and it was AMAZING.

It caused this meme to exist:

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[FoxxHound]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He got mad and went to a Planet and made the best Hulk book in the last few decades, fucked a bitch and made a son...who died(then got better). He then went back to earth, took over new york and made those assholes fight each other gladiator style until the Sentry went super sayian and they punched each other until their powers died.


Then Hercules took his book over and it was AMAZING.

It caused this meme to exist:

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O shit son.

[Azure]

Do you really want the truth?















Well, I got the truth for you right here!

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real reason that Classic and Wipe it Clean were banned was not because they were troll accounts.

it's because in this community you need multiple accounts to speak the truth and protect you're main forumquest levels.

Because Classic spoke the truth about rogue/sneak/hide bullshit.

And because Wipe it Clean spoke the truth about the deadness of the community.

R.I.P. P99/R99

I will miss you until the next turning of the wheel.

[Tongpow]

>Demand the Truth

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[Grimjaw]

jesus Christ what did I find here - heighten the illusion of threat


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/cu...0of%20Ops..pdf

[Non Quixote]

The US government can't screen our phone calls and get away with it, can't spy on other countries and get away with it, can't build secret aircraft and get away with it, can't waterboard prisoners and get away with it, hell Clinton couldn't get a blow job in the Oval office and get away with it. But...

A secret operation involving hundreds if not thousands of people (including some kamikazes) for years blows up several huge buildings, including one of the most secure in the world, kills thousands of US citizens, disrupts the world economy, and not one peep from anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

If our government were a person, he or she would have trouble finding their ass with both hands.

It is hilarious though to see how deep the paranoia goes.

It does burn my ass though when the truthers claim that the planes were remotely flown with dead bodies inside. Despicably disrespectful to those who lost family on them.

[Dr3am]

"I don't care about any of that. I want to know physically how the towers collapsed. I want to know why there was controlled demolition of tower 7. Those are the only questions I want answered. I don't care about anything beyond those two specific issues.

Answer my questions please."

I did a report on this for college years ago and I remember some of the details, so here goes. It has been a while so my details might be off here or there, but you get the picture.

1) Why did the steel girders melt at such low temperatures?
The answer to this lies within something called phase transitions when you heat metal. Sure the melting point of steel occurs much higher than jet fuel burns, but we don't need to melt the girders to make the building fall. At 700f industrial steel goes through its first phase transition and loses more than half of its tensile strength.
If you investigate the building itself you find that the steel coating the outside of the building is connected to a steel core in the middle of the building via steel trusses. These trusses keep the skin of the building in place, and as major wind forces hit the building it spreads the stress along the skin, through the trusses, and into the interior of the build. When the tensile strength of the buildings gave out, the trusses softened, causing the outside skin to buckle. Once this happened, the weigh to of the building above no longer was supported by the skin of the building in that area, resulting in the top of the building pushing down into nothing. This resulted in a collapse of the top of the building via the 6 stories of melted trusses. Look at it like a straw, and when you push straight down on the top of a straw it holds far more weight than it should due to the skin of the straw reinforcing itself throught its length. Now take the same straw and fold it then try to push down again- because the skin is no longer aligned the weight on top causes it to almost immediately give and no longer hold weight.

2) The buildings fell at the speed of freefall- had you dropped a penny from the top floor at the beginning of the collapse, it would impact the ground at the same time the top floor did.
This is true and the reasons behind it are amazing to consider. The building design (that I allude to above) was created for each floor to hold the static weight of all floors above it. In each case the buildings were struck with between 20 and 40 floors above them- and when they fell their weight became dynamic and not static. When that dynamic weight pushed on the floors below, it actually pulverized them because the static weight is nowhere near as immense as the dynamic weight. Bear in mind these buildings were not normal office buildings- they occupied an entire NY city block. Each. Their dynamic weight was so immense that the floors below could not even begin to resist it- they simply pulverized into dust. The forces involved when an entire city block sized 20 to 40 story building bears down on another force is hard to imagine much less calculate.

3) Tower 7 fell like a controlled demolition.
The lower floors of Tower 7 were completely obliterated by the falling debris by the trade centers, and all the load bearing structures on that floor were decimated. A key structural support that held the entire building together, at the center of the building, was destroyed. This is why the building was evacuated and expected to fall, and why it fell within its own footprint. It's actually a miracle that it stood as long as it did.

4) The twin towers fell like a controlled demolition.
http://www.cleveland.com/science/ind...1_attacks.html
Halfway down on the right hand side you will see a picture of the second tower collapsing at the initiation of the collapse. You can clearly see from this picture that the tower top fell to the left and then down, because the plane hollowed out and softened the support structures on the left of that tower.

[Ket]

Originally Posted by Dr3am [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I don't care about any of that. I want to know physically how the towers collapsed. I want to know why there was controlled demolition of tower 7. Those are the only questions I want answered. I don't care about anything beyond those two specific issues.

Answer my questions please."

I did a report on this for college years ago and I remember some of the details, so here goes. It has been a while so my details might be off here or there, but you get the picture.

1) Why did the steel girders melt at such low temperatures?
The answer to this lies within something called phase transitions when you heat metal. Sure the melting point of steel occurs much higher than jet fuel burns, but we don't need to melt the girders to make the building fall. At 700f industrial steel goes through its first phase transition and loses more than half of its tensile strength.
If you investigate the building itself you find that the steel coating the outside of the building is connected to a steel core in the middle of the building via steel trusses. These trusses keep the skin of the building in place, and as major wind forces hit the building it spreads the stress along the skin, through the trusses, and into the interior of the build. When the tensile strength of the buildings gave out, the trusses softened, causing the outside skin to buckle. Once this happened, the weigh to of the building above no longer was supported by the skin of the building in that area, resulting in the top of the building pushing down into nothing. This resulted in a collapse of the top of the building via the 6 stories of melted trusses. Look at it like a straw, and when you push straight down on the top of a straw it holds far more weight than it should due to the skin of the straw reinforcing itself throught its length. Now take the same straw and fold it then try to push down again- because the skin is no longer aligned the weight on top causes it to almost immediately give and no longer hold weight.

2) The buildings fell at the speed of freefall- had you dropped a penny from the top floor at the beginning of the collapse, it would impact the ground at the same time the top floor did.
This is true and the reasons behind it are amazing to consider. The building design (that I allude to above) was created for each floor to hold the static weight of all floors above it. In each case the buildings were struck with between 20 and 40 floors above them- and when they fell their weight became dynamic and not static. When that dynamic weight pushed on the floors below, it actually pulverized them because the static weight is nowhere near as immense as the dynamic weight. Bear in mind these buildings were not normal office buildings- they occupied an entire NY city block. Each. Their dynamic weight was so immense that the floors below could not even begin to resist it- they simply pulverized into dust. The forces involved when an entire city block sized 20 to 40 story building bears down on another force is hard to imagine much less calculate.

3) Tower 7 fell like a controlled demolition.
The lower floors of Tower 7 were completely obliterated by the falling debris by the trade centers, and all the load bearing structures on that floor were decimated. A key structural support that held the entire building together, at the center of the building, was destroyed. This is why the building was evacuated and expected to fall, and why it fell within its own footprint. It's actually a miracle that it stood as long as it did.

4) The twin towers fell like a controlled demolition.
http://www.cleveland.com/science/ind...1_attacks.html
Halfway down on the right hand side you will see a picture of the second tower collapsing at the initiation of the collapse. You can clearly see from this picture that the tower top fell to the left and then down, because the plane hollowed out and softened the support structures on the left of that tower.

The thing that keeps me coming back here is when someone, like the fella above, proposes concise arguments that get ignored for the sake of continuing whatever ridiculous argument happens to be going on.

But hey, keep on attempting to add excitement into your otherwise dull lives by fabricating conspiracy theories. Your like that chick I dated when I was a teenager who would lie about silly shit just to make herself seem more interesting.

Wait, hold on ...That was a lie. I don't know any women.

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-Ket