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[leewong]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is an irrefutable fact: the answer to anything and everything that has been figured out in the history of humans as we know it has never, ever, not once been magic.

That should be on a plaque somewhere. Maybe a t-shirt.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I got bored trying to follow his logic, but I like the way that G13 is basically going "nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh, if there's no god then EXPLAIN TO ME THE ORIGINS OF LIFE AND EXISTENCE!" Because that is a totally reasonable thing to expect.

Here is an irrefutable fact: the answer to anything and everything that has been figured out in the history of humans as we know it has never, ever, not once been magic.

Wrong

I'm just asking for one example of an entirely new kind/type of animal (new, never before seen written genetic code spontaneously writing itself to work in complete harmony withe existing genetic code). He couldn't provide one. When backed in a corner, he ran away like a little girl.

The coward put me on ignore because he couldn't prove it. Why couldn't he prove it? Because no such example exists. No such example has ever been observed in a lab (he lied or he as too stupid to understand what we were talking about). No such example has ever been observed in the field. When pressed, the answer is always the same. "millions and billions of years did it".

Except there is one small problem with that answer. Time doesn't write genetic code. Mutations don't write ordered, legible, structured and precise genetic code. They scramble genetic code. Carbon 14 is now being found in fossils thought to be "millions and billions" of years old (such as dinosaur fossils) with the latest technology that we have. So is skin tissue. Skin tissue on Dinosaur bones.

Carbon 14 doesn't last any longer than 100K years. Carbon dating has also dated living animals at 20K years old. In other words, it's never been a reliable model for properly dating fossils.

In every example he tried to show (copy/pasted nonsense) the life form was still the same life form. Still bacteria. Still finches. Still fruit flies. still foxes. Adaptation and Natural Selection are parts of "micro evolution". Not "macro-evolution". If you don't understand the difference between the two like the little girl running away like a coward than than I feel sorry for you.

It's not my problem he's a pathetic coward and is now trying to claim victory after having run away like a little girl from the discussion. You want to try and pick up where he left off or are you a coward too?

[Tenlaar]

I like how you chose to ignore the part of my post that you should have tried to wrap your brain around. I'll repeat it just for you.

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is an irrefutable fact: the answer to anything and everything that has been figured out in the history of humans as we know it has never, ever, not once been magic.

How about you show us all just one thing that was determined to have been caused by magic, then I'll start to consider magic as an answer to other questions.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how you chose to ignore the part of my post that you should have tried to wrap your brain around. I'll repeat it just for you.



How about you show us all just one thing that was determined to have been caused by magic, then I'll start to consider magic as an answer to other questions.

Didn't the universe pull itself out of a hat at one point?

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't the universe pull itself out of a hat at one point?

I don't know how the universe was formed. Based on that, I can only assume it was somehow related to a giant space turtle who watches me with a disappointed frown while I masturbate.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how you chose to ignore the part of my post that you should have tried to wrap your brain around. I'll repeat it just for you.



How about you show us all just one thing that was determined to have been caused by magic, then I'll start to consider magic as an answer to other questions.

What do you perceive "magic" to be?

Define "magic" as you perceive it to be

If you were to somehow fly a spaceship to some planet and discover a complex language/code more elegant and precise than anything mankind could ever possibly envision within the power of his own brain, would you call that magic? What would you call it?

[Tenlaar]

Magic = supernatural forces.

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you were to somehow fly a spaceship to some planet and discover a complex language/code more elegant and precise than anything mankind could ever possibly envision within the power of his own brain, would you call that magic? What would you call it?

I would call it something that I don't yet understand.

[G13]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Magic = supernatural forces.



I would call it something that I don't yet understand.

What's a "supernatural force"? Elaborate

You wouldn't understand it to be something creatively and intelligently brought into existence? Why wouldn't you call it "magic" if you didn't know the exact fashion in which it was formed?

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how you chose to ignore the part of my post that you should have tried to wrap your brain around. I'll repeat it just for you.



How about you show us all just one thing that was determined to have been caused by magic, then I'll start to consider magic as an answer to other questions.

Abiogenesis

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abiogenesis

Yet again, not knowing why something happens yet is not proof that it was done through magic.