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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We, us secular atheist non-believer folks, we don't know how the hell the universe happened. We have absolutely no idea. We really don't.

Sit back and shut the fuck up then.

[paulgiamatti]

Agnosticism is atheistic by definition. It's still the unbelief in deity.

What conclusion have I reached? I don't know how the universe came into existence. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

I haven't reached a conclusion. No reasoned atheist has, either.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agnosticism is atheistic by definition. It's still the unbelief in deity.

What conclusion have I reached? I don't know how the universe came into existence. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

I haven't reached a conclusion. No reasoned atheist has, either.

Well agnosticism and atheism are differen. An atheist denies the existence of god outright.

An agnostic leaves room for god existing but in different forms, force is one such form.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by RobotElvis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well agnosticism and atheism are differen. An atheist denies the existence of god outright.

An agnostic leaves room for god existing but in different forms, force is one such form.

Then I wouldn't exactly say I'm a bona-fide agnostic, but capable of having agnostic qualities.

[paulgiamatti]

And regardless of what you or anyone else thinks, no other human being knows how the universe came into existence either. The big bang theory isn't an irrefutable fact, and that in no way detracts from its credibility in the scope of science and rationality. It's the best we've got. It's the best any believer or non-believer has, even if they don't realize it themselves.

As I said earlier, something is either true or it isn't. Just because you think, with all of your might and intellect that something is true, that doesn't make it true. It's either true or it's false. Just because you had a crazy dream, or a vision, or you contemplated the universe for decades in an isolation chamber, doesn't mean you have the answers to anything. Something is either true, or it isn't. If you can't accept this, then you are simply intellectually dishonest, and this lays the bedrock for immorality.

[paulgiamatti]

Try and make me.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Try and make me.

I hope anyone reading this knows you are preaching out of your ass. You just admitted that you don't have a fucking clue about anything. Let the big boys handle this convo. See you next year.

[paulgiamatti]

I had made the same admission from the very beginning of the thread, the fact that your reading abilities were unable to pick up on it is only indicative of your poor reading abilities.

Ah, but now that I dumbed it down to a 5th grade reading level it's all perfectly clear, isn't it?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had made the same admission from the very beginning of the thread, the fact that your reading abilities were unable to pick up on it is only indicative of your poor reading abilities.

Ah, but now that I dumbed it down to a 5th grade reading level it's all perfectly clear, isn't it?

You are either some attention hungry little Bitch (don't even need this post to support this idea, but it definitely helps), or you are an idiot. I feel you tried to claim honesty to try and get some sort of sympathy and gain followers based off your "honesty". You don't fucking argue one side then admit that you have no fucking idea about shit. Not only does that destroy AND credibility you have, but anyone with half a brain will not take you serious AND will most likely use it against you.

Mock anyone's reading capabilities all you want. Stop trying to deflect from your own ignorance. You are the fucking idiot that is still in this thread arguing, not only after the several goodbyes you gave like you won some kind of war and won't be coming back, but after fucking admitting you don't have a clue.

[paulgiamatti]

Again, anyone with half a brain (not you, clearly) will easily pick up on the fact that every admission I made in that post, I had already made in earlier ones. I just simply laid it out with much more lucidity so as to cater to the comprehensive abilities of readers such as yourself, which are at approximately a grade-school level.