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[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually it does in a thread like this. The burden of proof is on you.

Again, we're not making any grandiose claims about the universe. There is nothing for me to prove, unless you don't actually believe I'm being honest about my own unbelief, and if that's the case then go right ahead. I'll go on living in a free, secular society where fortunately I have the right to tell everyone who tries to win me as a convert to fuck off and stay out of our public schools.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, we're not making any grandiose claims about the universe. There is nothing for me to prove, unless you don't actually believe I'm being honest about my own unbelief, and if that's the case then go right ahead. I'll go on living in a free, secular society where fortunately I have the right to tell everyone who tries to win me as a convert to fuck off and stay out of our public schools.

Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.

You keep implying belief on others like it is supposed to mean something. You pretend to be skeptical while clinging to outrageous explanations of the universe.

It's not an issue of challenging a belief system, it's the issue that you keep ignoring the only evidence available. If you can prove the fossil record is bullshit than do it! Make millions of dollars in the process and show all of those smug science types up. Just provide the evidence.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, which is laughable considering your strong belief for scientific theories, which aren't fact. By your standards though let us assume the Big Bang is correct. Prove it, or are you going to now argue that isn't magnificent, therefore you have a scapegoat to run away from your own ignorance some more. Is it accepted among people that the big bang is what happened? Of course, but it is the same belief in a God, or so your claims would imply. Is he magnificent? Yes, but prove it, I can't but many people still believe that is what it is. Don't try and act all high and mighty like you live some sort of life blessed with facts when in reality you don't.

Except we have tons of observable evidence that infers the big bang theory is factually correct. Creationist just point to their holy book. Care to explain cosmic background radiation? Did god create it to fool us?

[iruinedyourday]

explaning science to a die hard religious zelliot is like trying to ask me to understand this:

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Now, just because I don't understand this, doesn't mean it doesn't add up.

You dont understand the scientific theory. Plane and simple. You dont understand the most basic concepts of science, so you think its all wrong.

fact is you're just way too stupid to understand why science works as a method for learning the answers to life's most unanswerable questions, or at least point us in the direction of finding an answers.

ALL WHILE CURING DISEASES!... not just saying it cures diseases. Science is fucking curing that shit and saving your fucking life.

Something prayer has never done.

Although you probably believe that prayer does cure cancer.

So what the fuck are we arguing for, you'd be a dummy if you believed that prayer cured cancer, a dummy that cant be expected to understand the most basic concepts about reality. Like why you don't fly off into space not being because god is gently blowing down upon us from the sky, which also is what "wind" is.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually it does in a thread like this. The burden of proof is on you.

When the thread doesn't understand the burden of proof it's no use to continue to feed the ignorant masses.

[Eliseus]

The thread isn't called "PRAISE JEBUS"

[paulgiamatti]

The theory of the big bang is still just a scientific theory, it's not being claimed as scientific fact. It's something scientists use as a tool to predicate other theories on, some of which are actually testable, but that doesn't mean they can suddenly reverse engineer the big bang and prove it as fact.

[G13]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The theory of the big bang is still just a scientific theory, it's not being claimed as scientific fact. It's something scientists use as a tool to predicate other theories on, some of which are actually testable, but that doesn't mean they can suddenly reverse engineer the big bang and prove it as fact.

Where did the Matter and Energy that created this Big bang come from

Something cannot come from Nothing

Where did Matter come from

[leewong]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did the Matter and Energy that created this Big bang come from

Something cannot come from Nothing

Where did Matter come from

You couldnt be more wrong.

Empty space is FULL of virtual particles that pop into and out of existence. The energy of their interactions is the repulsive force that drives the expansion of the universe. It is known as dark energy.

Look up Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle if you think you can wrap your head around it. A demonstrably true phenomenon.