TLDR Brainstorming Red99's future and why Red is not Blue

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A BIG YES you do need to play here to understand the issues, and be able to relate to the player base.

If you don't play here, have no investment here, don't see the issues here please do me a favor and DO NOT POST.

The current person listening the most to red issues code wise is ME.

However, considering your attitude, you are now on the list of people who no longer have such input. I will let the dev who plays on red address your concerns.

H

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The current person listening the most to red issues code wise is ME.

However, considering your attitude, you are now on the list of people who no longer have such input. I will let the dev who plays on red address your concerns.

H

To be fair Stasis has always had it out for me for some reason. I think it is when I destroyed his variance argument months or years ago. He seems cool headed on TS most of the time but on the forums he is an emotional wreck.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The current person listening the most to red issues code wise is ME.

However, considering your attitude, you are now on the list of people who no longer have such input. I will let the dev who plays on red address your concerns.

H

The only changes code wise that I cared about are already changed, golem wands, 18 seconds tstaff etc etc.

You have no power over me, or my opinions, I've called out our GM's for their decisions and actions and can be banned any time, willingly.

If you think your threats intimidate me as a dev they don't, bring your logic and your opinion and I'll tell you mine - if you make sense i'll be honest about it and give you credit.

But the fact that I get gang jumped that this is a horrible idea from people who don't play, contribute, compete, farm, level, or do anything here really infuriates me.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do I have to play on red? Do I have to play at all? I play nowhere. I do have input to what you get on Red. Boxing will be a Never. Variance is possible, but if you get it, it will be permanent. No turning it off, if you don't like it.

H

Comments like this make me roll my eyes and wonder why I play here. What is there possibly to lose by turning on boxing for 5 days? For 3 days? It is literally impossible to create any long term damage by simply allowing boxing for 72 hours. Same with Variance [which I don't actually support].

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comments like this make me roll my eyes and wonder why I play here. What is there possibly to lose by turning on boxing for 5 days? For 3 days? It is literally impossible to create any long term damage by simply allowing boxing for 72 hours. Same with Variance [which I don't actually support].

Because there's a bunch of people who don't play here that create a bunch of noise over changes, when they don't even play here.

There is no harm, there is no argument against it, there's a bunch of illogical claims by people who DO NOT PLAY HERE.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Comments like this make me roll my eyes and wonder why I play here. What is there possibly to lose by turning on boxing for 5 days? For 3 days? It is literally impossible to create any long term damage by simply allowing boxing for 72 hours. Same with Variance [which I don't actually support].

I am very pro-boxing. ALL of the rest of staff, GMs, Admin, everyone is anti-boxing.

Its just the way it is.

H

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Haynar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am very pro-boxing. ALL of the rest of staff, GMs, Admin, everyone is anti-boxing.

Its just the way it is.

H

Yes for reasons that make sense on Blue, but don't on Red.

[Doors]

Stasis sperging out because people disagree with him.

[heartbrand]

To people against boxing [though some who claim to be box themselves], what is your suggestion then to make rolling on red99 more accessible? Do you not believe that the dearth of support classes leads to a difficult setting with which to create groups? Is your alternative "well pvp isn't as popular so oh well"?

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To people against boxing [though some who claim to be box themselves], what is your suggestion then to make rolling on red99 more accessible? Do you not believe that the dearth of support classes leads to a difficult setting with which to create groups? Is your alternative "well pvp isn't as popular so oh well"?

One thing I've always been against is low level twinks griefing new players off the server. I caused a big ruckuss in Azrael TS for calling someone out on it and was basically told to shut up who cares about new players.

Another thing is actually helping new players like YOU did with red dawn and I with VV. If you want fresh meat you need to help. With todays XP bonus is a fucking joke to how fast you can get a group of lowbies up to planar level.

Lastly simmer the fuck down. It is early as fuck and some of you are already flying off the handle. From OOC trolling to forum shit talk, often it just goes to far. I may be to blame for this one too, on occassion I used to troll ooc pretty hard but I tried to stay away from personal attacks at least.

The thing is the casual newb having a hard time can be fixed by the community already. You just need someone who isn't burned out on helping people to do it.

Those are just a few things on the top of my head. No coffee and doing homework so hopefully that made some sense.