Casinos - Page 11

Olscratch · #1 08-20-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiftin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's not bullshit. It's empirically proved out by flood of people who came forward when they were banned for RMT who said they were given plat or items purchased with real life money from people pretending to run a casino. Also, every staff member posting in this thread has said or alluded to the exact same thing, and they're the ones who have to comb through the logs to catch these assholes.

Link, Source? None of the staff members have mentioned RMT.
They won't even speak about any reason for the casino shut down/all gambling made illegal besides saying it wasn't primarily based on the (1) casino scam that happened.

captnamazing · #2 08-20-2014, 01:41 PM

I lament for the loss of Tookie, you were great.

Meatspin will live

Shiftin · #3 08-20-2014, 01:43 PM

How hard is it for people to understand that people were using "casinos" as a front for RMT plat sales? It is WAY more difficult to find and stop RMT when you exponentially increase the constant plat back and forth happening because of Casinos. We saw concrete evidence after the big RMT ban where people banned for RMT admitted they got their plat given to them from someone pretending to run a casino.

Come on people, think. This is a huge boon for RMT enforcement and it makes sitting in EC significantly less annoying.

zforrestal · #4 08-20-2014, 01:50 PM

If you're a scumbag you're a scumbag why should that affect me...

I'm not a scumbag I'd like to think I do good things but now I'm affected due to assholes... cool

Shiftin · #5 08-20-2014, 01:52 PM

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. The net loss to the server from pissing people off (i'm sorry, you're probably awesome as a person, but casinos as a category are really REALLY annoying - i have to /ignore someone new almost every time i come to EC), the petitions for people who were or claim to be scammed that keep the GMs busy, and masking RMT far outweighs the experience of the tiny group of people running legitimate casinos.

Just because something is bad for you, doesn't mean it is bad for the server, even if you yourself aren't bad for the server.

Orruar · #6 08-20-2014, 03:41 PM

To all those who think this won't hurt server population, you're wrong. Earlier there were over 1.1 billion people on beta. I just logged in and now there are -33 million. This ban has already crippled the player base.

Fiyero · #7 08-20-2014, 11:37 PM

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To all those who think this won't hurt server population, you're wrong. Earlier there were over 1.1 billion people on beta. I just logged in and now there are -33 million. This ban has already crippled the player base.

1.1 billion people play P99 Velious Beta? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael · #8 08-20-2014, 01:53 PM

If people are going to leave because they can't gamble at player run casinos then that's their choice. This is in-line with what many servers did on classic. There's no point in arguing about it because it's not going to get overturned.

Player run casinos are gone for good and not coming back.

Shiftin · #9 08-20-2014, 02:07 PM

But it does do things. Imagine a database log file for player to player plat transactions with and without casinos operating. Imagine how much easier it is to spot trends and people who seem to deal only in handing money back and forth between players.

Before, an RMT mule handing someone 100k over 20 transaction wouldn't set off any alarms because it would be buried in hundreds or thousands of other small back and forth transactions happening the same day, even actual casino transactions the RMT mule could do from time to time to "prove" his legitimacy.

Now, much harder to hide.

Think beyond how this annoys you personally.

ripwind · #10 08-20-2014, 02:08 PM

Nobody is going to leave over this. Just a bunch of hot-headed responses. As someone who has played the casinos, never been scammed, and mostly broken even... I'm actually all for them being disallowed. They were never allowed on my server on live, either. The GMs are tasked enough without having to deal with casino-related petitions and the possible RMT implications.

Also, this isn't a democracy.